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Author Topic: my network has sent me 2 x Black iPhone 5 64 gig models by mistake!! ???  (Read 14484 times)

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Wayne

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damn! i had better make the call then, if there's NO WAY of me keeping it and using it at all for a family member on the same network!

knew they'd get me in the end lol, you cant use it without activating it, obviously!
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I can safely say send it back you'll only get caught and done for fraud  :y

also I've never seen a thread on here get so many replies in such a short time :o

is it cause the members on here think that something's going free and want to be your friend  ;D

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I can safely say send it back you'll only get caught and done for fraud  :y

also I've never seen a thread on here get so many replies in such a short time :o

is it cause the members on here think that something's going free and want to be your friend  ;D
I wonder how many PMs the OP has ;D
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Wayne

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i`ll sell it ya! lol!  £699 Retail

£500 cash to whoever! ha ha
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yeah, but wont they know when i stick a sim card in it?  or flog it and someone else sticks a simcard in it?

wont it activate on their screen or someat  ::)

It depends if they "think" its stolen and block its IMEI number, if its been sent in error, its a c0ck up on their side, they might not even notice.

I'd stick an advert on gumtree, flog it, asking for cash. Of course don't use or usual e-mail or give out personal details  :)

Methinks that if you order one item and two turn up, the duplicate does not automatically become your property. By selling it, you would certainly be committing a crime, if not in law, then certainly in spirit. I would phone them up and ask them to collect one.

There again, I'm honest.  :P
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Agree with nickbat on this.

You have signed a contract / payed for ONE PHONE.

If you sell the other one you will be in the shite believe me.

Stick it in a cupboard for a few months and see what happens but remember you have signed TWICE so its not something you can lie about  ;)
It won't take them long to work out were it went  :(
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Flog it. Agree with Tunnie here, you get very little for free in life.
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Wayne

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i have spoke to my friend of a friend of a friend of a friend and he said KEEP IT and just wait for 2 - 3 months!

your right Del Boy! you get sod all in this life, i never have and YES i can live with myself
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i have spoke to my friend of a friend of a friend of a friend and he said KEEP IT and just wait for 2 - 3 months!

your right Del Boy! you get sod all in this life, i never have and YES i can live with myself

Just remember that you have openly admitted (on here) that you know it was sent in error and hope you get away with it ;)

I see it as theft, pure and simple, but we all have our own views ::)

I also see it as being no different to someone accidentally dinging the car and then driving off
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Wayne

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OKAY Admins, please Close this thread or delete it

i got nowt to be ashamed of 


Cheers
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OKAY Admins, please Close this thread or delete it

i got nowt to be ashamed of 


Cheers

No worries Wayne... It'd be a boring place if we all saw everything the same way ;)
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Nickbat

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OKAY Admins, please Close this thread or delete it

i got nowt to be ashamed of 


Cheers

Send the spare phone back and sleep soundly.

It's not rightfully yours. You know it isn't.  :(
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Wayne

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agreed mate  ;D
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The fact that you felt the need to ask what to do speaks volumes about our current society. Nothing more to be said.

LD and nickbat;  :y
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Wayne,

I am posting this simply as a forum member giving my views in response to your original question. It is not to be "holier than thou" but is intended in good faith to encourage you to do the right thing.

You ordered 1 item. 2 items have turned up. You are in full knowledge that you are only entitled to keep one of these items, and, even if you don't know exactly what the legal position is, the very fact you have posted come on here and ask about whether you could "get away with it" or "be traced" clearly shows that you don't think it would be right or honest to keep the second iPhone.

Without going into any boring details, UK law says in summary that someone is guilty of stealing if he/she dishonestly comes by property (the iphone) belonging to someone else (vodafone) and intends to permanently deprive the owner of it (keeping it for a family member).

So the bottom line is, if you keep the phone, it's Theft.

You have gone as far as make a series of posts on a public forum, asking for advice on if you could get away with nicking the phone, and if so, how to get away with it.

Firstly, you never know who is reading your posts. As a few examples, There are some police officers on this forum, some serving, some retired, who may feel it appropraite to pass the information on. There are also some solicitors, magistrates, and various people who work within the Criminal Justice System who actively use this site, who may well take an interest in what you are writing.

It only takes for one of those to take an interest and pass the information on. Once some digging is then done by the appropriate agency, you'll be amazed what could be found out from just your forum posts.

For example, you clearly give your name as Wayne Harris from Stanford in the Vale, Oxfordshire, in your Signature. I can't imaging there being many Wayne Harris's in this village. A look in the phone book might even give the required information. You provide a website link in your signature, which any person on the internet can see has been registered via 123-reg. Although you may have whois optout, a legal body could make an application or get some form of obligation for the ISP to release your identity. Your unique IP is logged every time you post on this forum, I would imagine some kind of application could be made to the founders of OOF in order to compel them to relase any such information held.

Your profile also displays an email address of bongioviwayne@aol.com, which is another route that could be used to identify you.

I know very little about data protection, so none of the above is set it stone, but it just highlights the fact that you have openly, to anyone, provided few very strong indications of who you are. Everything I have just typed is publicly on your profile, and anyone with a tiny bit of common sense could work it out.

And as also mentioned - with new technology, tracking, activation etc, there is another aspect that may catch you out.

I seem to recall you're around my age - mid/late 20's? Can you afford a criminal record?

To put this whole thing into perspective, think about the consequences if you get caught, and done for it. Ok, you may not have any / many previous offences on your record, and may only get a fine if you get convicted - but think of the wider consequences. If you get convicted of a dishonesty related offence, you could lose your current job if you have one - and you will without doubt struggle to ever get another decent one.

I repeat, this is NOT intended to be on a soap box, or holier than thou, it is intended to HELP the OP, by giving him some encouragement to do the right thing and give him some reasonable information on how he will probably never get away with nicking the 2nd iPhone.

Wayne. call the provider and tell them you've got it, and they're welcome to collect it. You're totally in the clear then. If they tell you to keep it, your honesty has paid dividends and you'll be able to sleep at night, rather than having that niggling thought in the back of your mind..


I hope you do the right thing :y
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