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[tunnie]

Forget making progress on the Autobahns given that if it isn't winter yet, it will be over there, so why take the risk.
Ferry part of the trip, not just a mode of transport.
2.2 wishbones will only need doing anyway, might as well justify it as preparation work.

3.2 probably best to do a few longer trips in uk before hitting the continent.

Manual more manageable in snow, presumably you've driven the 2.2 manual on snow/ice so know what to expect with it, whereas the 3.2auto might catch you unawares

Yeah drove 2.2 in the "big dump" we had in 2009, quite enjoyed it, never got stuck, but quite a lot of wheel spin (which winter tyres should stop)

Wishbones themselves are ok, not split, so actually only need to Polly really.

[TheBoy]

Forget making progress on the Autobahns given that if it isn't winter yet, it will be over there, so why take the risk.
Ferry part of the trip, not just a mode of transport.
2.2 wishbones will only need doing anyway, might as well justify it as preparation work.

3.2 probably best to do a few longer trips in uk before hitting the continent.

Manual more manageable in snow, presumably you've driven the 2.2 manual on snow/ice so know what to expect with it, whereas the 3.2auto might catch you unawares

Yeah drove 2.2 in the "big dump" we had in 2009, quite enjoyed it, never got stuck, but quite a lot of wheel spin (which winter tyres should stop)

Wishbones themselves are ok, not split, so actually only need to Polly really.

You need to check the rears and the balljoints, and use that as a basis for decision. I think its fair to say that the rears will likely be shot.

[tunnie]

Forget making progress on the Autobahns given that if it isn't winter yet, it will be over there, so why take the risk.
Ferry part of the trip, not just a mode of transport.
2.2 wishbones will only need doing anyway, might as well justify it as preparation work.

3.2 probably best to do a few longer trips in uk before hitting the continent.

Manual more manageable in snow, presumably you've driven the 2.2 manual on snow/ice so know what to expect with it, whereas the 3.2auto might catch you unawares

Yeah drove 2.2 in the "big dump" we had in 2009, quite enjoyed it, never got stuck, but quite a lot of wheel spin (which winter tyres should stop)

Wishbones themselves are ok, not split, so actually only need to Polly really.

You need to check the rears and the balljoints, and use that as a basis for decision. I think its fair to say that the rears will likely be shot.

Are the rear ones not a doddle to fit? The place usually used for rear jacking, that bolt off, plate comes out and yank the bush out? (ooo errr  )

[Entwood]

Forget making progress on the Autobahns given that if it isn't winter yet, it will be over there, so why take the risk.
Ferry part of the trip, not just a mode of transport.
2.2 wishbones will only need doing anyway, might as well justify it as preparation work.

3.2 probably best to do a few longer trips in uk before hitting the continent.

Manual more manageable in snow, presumably you've driven the 2.2 manual on snow/ice so know what to expect with it, whereas the 3.2auto might catch you unawares

Yeah drove 2.2 in the "big dump" we had in 2009, quite enjoyed it, never got stuck, but quite a lot of wheel spin (which winter tyres should stop)

Wishbones themselves are ok, not split, so actually only need to Polly really.

You need to check the rears and the balljoints, and use that as a basis for decision. I think its fair to say that the rears will likely be shot.

Are the rear ones not a doddle to fit? The place usually used for rear jacking, that bolt off, plate comes out and yank the bush out? (ooo errr  )

I think he means the rear bush OF THE WISHBONE .. not the rear bush of the car !!!    subtle difference .. by about 6 feet ...

[TheBoy]

Forget making progress on the Autobahns given that if it isn't winter yet, it will be over there, so why take the risk.
Ferry part of the trip, not just a mode of transport.
2.2 wishbones will only need doing anyway, might as well justify it as preparation work.

3.2 probably best to do a few longer trips in uk before hitting the continent.

Manual more manageable in snow, presumably you've driven the 2.2 manual on snow/ice so know what to expect with it, whereas the 3.2auto might catch you unawares

Yeah drove 2.2 in the "big dump" we had in 2009, quite enjoyed it, never got stuck, but quite a lot of wheel spin (which winter tyres should stop)

Wishbones themselves are ok, not split, so actually only need to Polly really.

You need to check the rears and the balljoints, and use that as a basis for decision. I think its fair to say that the rears will likely be shot.

Are the rear ones not a doddle to fit? The place usually used for rear jacking, that bolt off, plate comes out and yank the bush out? (ooo errr  )

I meant rear bushes in the front wishbone.

Your rear donut bushes on the rear suspension are likely shot. If you think they are, see the Pedders thread. Or make me an offer for the Lemforder ones I've got in the garage

[tunnie]

Forget making progress on the Autobahns given that if it isn't winter yet, it will be over there, so why take the risk.
Ferry part of the trip, not just a mode of transport.
2.2 wishbones will only need doing anyway, might as well justify it as preparation work.

3.2 probably best to do a few longer trips in uk before hitting the continent.

Manual more manageable in snow, presumably you've driven the 2.2 manual on snow/ice so know what to expect with it, whereas the 3.2auto might catch you unawares

Yeah drove 2.2 in the "big dump" we had in 2009, quite enjoyed it, never got stuck, but quite a lot of wheel spin (which winter tyres should stop)

Wishbones themselves are ok, not split, so actually only need to Polly really.

You need to check the rears and the balljoints, and use that as a basis for decision. I think its fair to say that the rears will likely be shot.

Are the rear ones not a doddle to fit? The place usually used for rear jacking, that bolt off, plate comes out and yank the bush out? (ooo errr  )

I think he means the rear bush OF THE WISHBONE .. not the rear bush of the car !!!    subtle difference .. by about 6 feet ...

Oh yeh, Oooopss   

[05omegav6]

Echo echo echo...

[tunnie]

Fek it, prob worth sticking whole new wishbones in, as lets face it every part of the current ones must be shot

[TheBoy]

Thats why I say check yours first

Once you change WB, you need geometry. If you can get away with just poly....

[tunnie]

Thats why I say check yours first

Once you change WB, you need geometry. If you can get away with just poly....

Yes thats what I was thinking, possible new steering idler too. Can't see/feel any play, but front feels very loose. Which could also be wishbones.

But at 160k old, the ball joints can't possibly be still good can they? 

[05omegav6]

Even if you end up changing the lot now, you'll be saving yourself a job in the New year. If you end up breaking it once the 3.2 is fully up and running, then you'll have a box full of lightly worn suspension bits that won't be wasted when you need them on the 3.2

[tunnie]

Even if you end up changing the lot now, you'll be saving yourself a job in the New year. If you end up breaking it once the 3.2 is fully up and running, then you'll have a box full of lightly worn suspension bits that won't be wasted when you need them on the 3.2

Actually have nice new wishbones on the 3.2, but if it was broken, be stripped off for future use. Long term plan is to run both side by side, 3.2 will be for MrsT 

Plan on running 2.2 for some years yet, so it won't be wasted money. I'd fit poly as it would be cheaper and damn site easier, also avoid trip to WIM. But just can't see ball joints still being in good nick.

[05omegav6]

 
Might be prudent to get it all done and dusted, putting polys into new arms, and all set up, then you know that it's done and you'll get the best out of the winter tyres too

[tunnie]

Oddly though, tyres are wearing normally!

[05omegav6]

Probably don't ask too much of them pootling about the edges of the fronts only wear under duress or if the geometry is well off