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[Rods2]

In the Ukraine if there is snow then you have to use winter tyres. If you get caught with summer tyres you have to pay a bribe fine.

When we have snow like today should the same apply, so those with winter tyre can get from A to B safely in a timely manner and not get delayed by those stuck on summer tyres or worse hit by an out of control car, van or lorry?

Winter tyres are meant to be beneficial once temperature are below 7degC with shorter stopping distance, so should they be made compulsory from the end of October to the begging of March, like the EU would like to?

I have set up a week long poll for your thoughts.

[cem_devecioglu]

end of october to march..  we pay lots of money to run those cars, for fuel , for repair, tax etc.. but when it comes to paying for tyres everyones lost from horizon    here it is compulsory for commercial vehicles and next year probably will be compulsory for all..

[mantahatch]

Even though I got stuck today (in Astra) I still cannot see that we have enough bad weather to justify it.  Just my opinion of course 

[Kevin Wood]

Nope. Tyres are completely irrelevant to the majority of drivers who simply don't have the first idea how to cope with the conditions, so shouldn't be on the road in them, snow tyres or not.

[ozzycat]

 no they shouldnt it costs enough to keep a car onthe road as it is

[feeutfo]

No. Utter pointless notion.

[ffcgary1]

Tossers in BMW's with illigal blacked out windows and the mental age of 12 will crash and cause mayhem regardless of what tyres are fitted. 2 tons of metal at 60MPH will not stop any quicker with Winter tyres when the road is covered in snow and black ice.
 

[Vamps]

No, the roads up here are all clear, we have not had any new snow today or last night, so we have had snow for only 2 or 3 days, no ice to speak of on the main roads either....

[Lazydocker]

Nope. Tyres are completely irrelevant to the majority of drivers who simply don't have the first idea how to cope with the conditions, so shouldn't be on the road in them, snow tyres or not.

Spot on

I've driven around for 24 hours on the crappiest plastic tyres in the world that were worn to 2mm (max) on the rear of my car and I've had no issues at all, passing stranded 4x4's as well as numerous WWD PooBoxes because I was prepared and had the appropriate things in the back of the car

OK, it was "interesting" at times and they were shockingly slippery in the snow but I managed "The wrong type of car for snow"

When I was working recovery we still had to get out to people, especially if there was an RTA/danger, and the slideback lorries have absolutely zero weight over the rear (drive) axle

What would be far more beneficial would be to put a skid pan course with a test) in as part of learning to drive so that people actually learn how to deal with it

[Lazydocker]

No, the roads up here are all clear, we have not had any new snow today or last night, so we have had snow for only 2 or 3 days, no ice to speak of on the main roads either....

Perhaps the answer is for everyone to buy a Jeep then

[Vamps]

No, the roads up here are all clear, we have not had any new snow today or last night, so we have had snow for only 2 or 3 days, no ice to speak of on the main roads either....

Perhaps the answer is for everyone to buy a Jeep then

Who asked your opinion 'Junior'.............

[Lazydocker]

No, the roads up here are all clear, we have not had any new snow today or last night, so we have had snow for only 2 or 3 days, no ice to speak of on the main roads either....

Perhaps the answer is for everyone to buy a Jeep then

Who asked your opinion 'Junior'.............

At least it's no Newbie any more

[cem_devecioglu]

Nope. Tyres are completely irrelevant to the majority of drivers who simply don't have the first idea how to cope with the conditions, so shouldn't be on the road in them, snow tyres or not.

Spot on

I've driven around for 24 hours on the crappiest plastic tyres in the world that were worn to 2mm (max) on the rear of my car and I've had no issues at all, passing stranded 4x4's as well as numerous WWD PooBoxes because I was prepared and had the appropriate things in the back of the car

OK, it was "interesting" at times and they were shockingly slippery in the snow but I managed "The wrong type of car for snow"

When I was working recovery we still had to get out to people, especially if there was an RTA/danger, and the slideback lorries have absolutely zero weight over the rear (drive) axle

What would be far more beneficial would be to put a skid pan course with a test) in as part of learning to drive so that people actually learn how to deal with it

and you have short braking distance too

[Lazydocker]

Nope. Tyres are completely irrelevant to the majority of drivers who simply don't have the first idea how to cope with the conditions, so shouldn't be on the road in them, snow tyres or not.

Spot on

I've driven around for 24 hours on the crappiest plastic tyres in the world that were worn to 2mm (max) on the rear of my car and I've had no issues at all, passing stranded 4x4's as well as numerous WWD PooBoxes because I was prepared and had the appropriate things in the back of the car

OK, it was "interesting" at times and they were shockingly slippery in the snow but I managed "The wrong type of car for snow"

When I was working recovery we still had to get out to people, especially if there was an RTA/danger, and the slideback lorries have absolutely zero weight over the rear (drive) axle

What would be far more beneficial would be to put a skid pan course with a test) in as part of learning to drive so that people actually learn how to deal with it

and you have short braking distance too

Minimal difference to braking distance Cem... Rear axle does very little braking

[cem_devecioglu]

Nope. Tyres are completely irrelevant to the majority of drivers who simply don't have the first idea how to cope with the conditions, so shouldn't be on the road in them, snow tyres or not.

Spot on

I've driven around for 24 hours on the crappiest plastic tyres in the world that were worn to 2mm (max) on the rear of my car and I've had no issues at all, passing stranded 4x4's as well as numerous WWD PooBoxes because I was prepared and had the appropriate things in the back of the car

OK, it was "interesting" at times and they were shockingly slippery in the snow but I managed "The wrong type of car for snow"

When I was working recovery we still had to get out to people, especially if there was an RTA/danger, and the slideback lorries have absolutely zero weight over the rear (drive) axle

What would be far more beneficial would be to put a skid pan course with a test) in as part of learning to drive so that people actually learn how to deal with it

and you have short braking distance too

Minimal difference to braking distance Cem... Rear axle does very little braking

the distance can vary from %25 to %50    depending on the tyres conditions..