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[feeutfo]

Tony himself set up the car so obviously done correctly but car is not driving straight. It needs a fair bit of correction and wheel is off centre which is annoying.

If I'm honest it drives no better than before. 

Maybe I had too high expectations

Unfortunate, and it does happen, but I don't know anywhere else to recommend or trust more than wim given your location SMD.

As discussed when you where here, sometimes seized track rods at the rear can make the back run at a different line to the front. Thrust centre I think that call it. If the back thrust centre is off to one side, the front won't be straight.
 An off centre steering wheel is annoying, but won't do any harm in terms of tyre wear. If its pulling however, that suggests a camber issue as well. Which "may" see odd wear. Although unlikely.

It may be it just needs a tweak on front camber to account for road crown, but we'll see when the figures are posted. Before and after settings will be interesting too.

It might also be a case of swapping front wheels to the opposite sides to account for run out. But it needs to go back to them, and let them sort it. Sadly.

[TheBoy]

As others have said, give WIM a call, give them a chance to put it right - I don't think its just a case of them setting to certain settings, as these cars are all old, there will be wear and maybe slightly twisted components etc, which all have to be taken into account, along with what the driver complaints are.

[pirate]

gave WIM all the info on car everything up front is new at back she has bilstein shocks no air,also told them what wheels and tyres fitted fronts are pirelli rosso and were new 11 mths ago when i replaced all suspention as i wanted her to go round corners lol,all was good for 6 mths thinking back also did both back wheel bearings , as i only use her at week end or if going up lincs to see my mum i didnt drive her enough to worry to much ,alittle tram lining on crap roads where lorrys sink the tarmac,but when the tracking was done it made it worse and again when i took it back,there is no adverse or uneven wear on tyres.also have an anoying knock very slight from i think rear nearside but have checked again and again nothing worn and rear drop links changed,only on bumpy roads or potholes starting to think it maybe exhaust .old cars dont you love them,

[SMD]

Where to start...firstly for the record I wouldn't take my car/s anywhere other than to Tony/WIM despite this small setback. As said in the OP it may just be me (re: the handling) which is why I asked for a second opinion. I don't know how active Tony is on this forum, or if he is reading this. Certainly not having a pop at him, although it does probably seem that way 

Chris, the nearside rear track rod was adjusted, OSR was fine. Looking at the print out, it says "steering wheel is currently level". Don't know if this refers to before starting work of after, so it could have been my fault for not mentioning that the wheel was not straight when I got there 


Print out:

[feeutfo]

going by previous discussions, by the looks of that, front axle, camber, left, actual setting needs to be increased by the looks. 0.57 needs to be more than on the right to account for the road crown. Or it will run towards the gutter.
 Although its a tiny fraction of a difference in real terms according to those figures. Tbh.

Maybe swapping wheels around will help a fraction too. ...?


Shame, as the toe setting is cock on.

[SMD]

The car does have a tendency to wander towards the gutter or to the left when on motorways when steering wheel is central.  When I drove it yesterday on some roads (very few) the steering wheel is central and car drives straight but on most it wants to go left

[05omegav6]

Chris, the nearside rear track rod was adjusted, OSR was fine. Looking at the print out, it says "steering wheel is currently level". Don't know if this refers to before starting work of after, so it could have been my fault for not mentioning that the wheel was not straight when I got there

This might be the crux of the issue

[SMD]

You're probably right. The excitement of being in the company of TheBoy made me forget to mention it and I assumed it was part of the setup

[tunnie]

Like others have mentioned, speak to WIM & explain your issues.

I've no doubt they will want to resolve it for you 

[feeutfo]

They set the steering wheel position straight and clamp it to the seat before they start. Then set the track rod adjusters to straight ahead from there, once caster and camber are set.

The actual position of the steering wheel is really not that important in real terms. Although it should be level. In fact, if that left front camber setting had been increased, I suspect strongly the car would be spot on.

It probably only needs no more than 0.10 minutes increase. (60minutes to 1 degree)

Although tyre run out "might" play a part Tony will advise no doubt.

[LFF64]

I have been there 3 times now and mine is still not right
The steering wheels is straight ahead but car drives left ,to keep car in a straight line I have to hold the steering wheel slightly down to the right
Tony has suggested it could be a tyre problem and I need to swap front wheels over side to side to see what happens
I can't remember what tires I have on the car Think they are Nexan ? But they are directional
As I haven't done this yet I don't know if this sort the problem

[feeutfo]

Rears to the front?

[pirate]

well after speaking to wim then talking to the local place i was going to ,i have no confidence in them so have booked geo with wim for weds morning .
i will let you know how it goes.bit of a trek for me but hopefuly worth it.

[dbdb]

Feltham Tyres http://www.felthamtyre.co.uk/ were very good on my mig, camber front and rear.

[TheBoy]

Feltham Tyres http://www.felthamtyre.co.uk/ were very good on my mig, camber front and rear.

What did they set camber, toe, castor and thrust angle to? Then we can decide if they are any good

99% of the geometry specialists out there set Omegas up incorrectly.