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Re: WIM and off centre steering wheel
« Reply #45 on: 05 February 2013, 00:29:54 »

See, part worns aren't that bad  ;D

Tony was off sick today so hoping he is back tomorrow.

He did say when setting up he went for slightly less camber due to the soft front suspension so it had more tolerance for camber to increase over time when going over bumps and potholes (i hope I'm not misquoting). Not sure if thats for one side only. I assumed both sides.
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Re: WIM and off centre steering wheel
« Reply #46 on: 05 February 2013, 00:43:19 »

See, part worns aren't that bad  ;D

Must have been a "very carefully matched" very odd set then. ;) ;D
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Re: WIM and off centre steering wheel
« Reply #47 on: 05 February 2013, 09:53:49 »

Uneven toe just means the steering wheel will be off, and little else. Uneven toe won't cause a pull, as the driver will steer straight anyway, regardless of steering wheel position. :) excessive combined toe will scrub tyres, but will still drive straight.
But the toe was significantly toe out that would cause wandering/being unstable in a straight line and is v bad on a neg camber car like the mig.
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Re: WIM and off centre steering wheel
« Reply #48 on: 05 February 2013, 22:11:48 »

hope tonys back tommorow im booked for 10 am fingers crossed.
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Re: WIM and off centre steering wheel
« Reply #49 on: 05 February 2013, 22:13:55 »

I'm going there at 11. Tony said he should be there.
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Re: WIM and off centre steering wheel
« Reply #50 on: 06 February 2013, 15:20:46 »

Went to see Tony today to correct the wonky steering wheel.

With the steering wheel central (double checked by myself) the toe was definately out so after a few adjustments I was on my way but it didnt feel right, the steering was still out but in the other direction (wheel needed turning left to go straight). On some roads it felt fine and drove straight so I couldnt help but wonder if the problem was in my head. After driving around for 45 mins on various types of road, getting lost  ::), heading towards home and WIM (couldn't decide if I should go back) I took it back.

Good decision it was too as it was out again. This time he put a bar between the front wheels after setting the steering central and made some adjustments to the rear track rods and the front which seems to have done the job, no more wonky steering wheel.   :y

Also met Pirate there with his clean and shiny (but inferior) PFL Elite Estate.  :y
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Re: WIM and off centre steering wheel
« Reply #51 on: 06 February 2013, 15:30:30 »

Tbh,I would find it unnacceptable to have to go back two or three times to have the job done properly.the time and cost of petrol involved makes it an expensive excercise imo.With the reputation they have I would have thought WIM would make sure they get it right first time ?  :-\
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Re: WIM and off centre steering wheel
« Reply #52 on: 06 February 2013, 17:39:06 »

Tbh,I would find it unnacceptable to have to go back two or three times to have the job done properly.the time and cost of petrol involved makes it an expensive excercise imo.With the reputation they have I would have thought WIM would make sure they get it right first time ?  :-\
But it can't always be perfect first time, every time... We're all human ;)

Plus, if heat has to be used to free things off then that can have a big impact ;)
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Re: WIM and off centre steering wheel
« Reply #53 on: 06 February 2013, 18:06:22 »

It seems to be a common problem though.Iirc there have been quite a few mentions of steering wheel not pointing straight ahead on here after a visit to WIM ?
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Re: WIM and off centre steering wheel
« Reply #54 on: 06 February 2013, 19:01:53 »

It seems to be a common problem though.Iirc there have been quite a few mentions of steering wheel not pointing straight ahead on here after a visit to WIM ?
This is the danger if being overly positive IMO. Real world only applies. Wim are without doubt the premier set up company for the omega IMO. But nobody's perfect. Ever.

I've lost count how many times I've had to return mine, through very similar problems as SMD's. But I wouldn't take it anywhere else. Although some of that is location driven.

Important thing is its sorted. :y
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Re: WIM and off centre steering wheel
« Reply #55 on: 08 February 2013, 17:28:24 »

cant praise tony enough spot on job after it was made worse by local idiot doing the tracking wrong,car has settled well and im enjoying her again well apart from the sodding potholes and speed bumps,inferior pfl estate lol its not inferior its the only bloody one ha,steinmetz rule
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Re: WIM and off centre steering wheel
« Reply #56 on: 08 February 2013, 17:49:30 »

I agree with the two main points made in recent posts - EG - 1) WIM are the best place to get the Omega (and probably anything else) set up.. and 2) We all make mistakes / don't get things perfect / encouter difficulties for all manner of legitimate reasons.

With WIM, what swings it, apart from the complete confidence I have in them, is the fact that they will let you go back, and will listen to your symptoms, believe you, and work with you to improve them.

I can't see likes of 5h1t fit doing anything other than fob people off.

My ONLY negative comment about WIM is that, with the full geo setup, you pay a flat rate. Now this COULD work out very well for someone needing lots of adjustments, however the few times I've been, I've opted for the full Geo, and it's only needed the toe adjusted... so I've essentially paid a full geo price for a quick adjustment.

That said - it's a gamble I knowingly and willingly take... and, I wouldn't take my car anywhere else for tyres and geo. Thankfully, living in Aylesbury much of the time, I can get over to Chesham no worries at all... but even before I did, I'd always make the 180 mile round trip.

Long story short - WIM still get my vote :y
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Re: WIM and off centre steering wheel
« Reply #57 on: 08 February 2013, 18:42:26 »

Agree with the above.

Both times I went back Tony accepted it wasn't right and was keen to correct it. The likes of kwik fit and ETS would have fobbed me off for sure.
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Re: WIM and off centre steering wheel
« Reply #58 on: 08 February 2013, 20:01:01 »

It seems to be a common problem though.Iirc there have been quite a few mentions of steering wheel not pointing straight ahead on here after a visit to WIM ?

its a common problem in all geometry shops.. one man need to climb and hold the steering or use a fixing apparatus which they generally forgot..
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Re: WIM and off centre steering wheel
« Reply #59 on: 08 February 2013, 21:49:50 »

Not surprised. there's so much compliance in the front bushes that a basic roll backward and then forward creates a different reading every time. Polys make a big improvement.
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