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Would have voted for the bill

10 (21.3%)

Would have voted against the bill

30 (63.8%)

Dont know

3 (6.4%)

Mind your own business,I was never confused

4 (8.5%)

Total Members Voted: 34

Voting closed: 08 February 2013, 20:38:34

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Nothing that is said on this forum will alter your beliefs, Lizzie, nor mine. I think it's time for a nice cup of tea.

No, indeed!

A damn fine idea!! Two sugars with milk please

With a biscuit

If you like a lot of chocolate on your biscuit join their club

An OOF biscuit, that's an idea!  I'll certainly have it with my cup of tea!

[Lizzie_Zoom]

So you as a christian believe that the first half of the Holy Bible is a load of old bollix ? Interesting.
The senior churchman who stated that there was no clear statement against homosexuality in the Bible,has obviously never read it.
Btw,I have read it cover to cover many times.It just so happens that I no longer believe a word of it.
It could be argued that the church is actually dying because it has changed/modernised etc. It was once a centre point,a yardstick for national morality,conscience etc.In the last 50 years it has to a large extent changed according to fashionable thinking and no longer represents a solid,reliable focus point for communities etc.
Muslimism on the other hand has not moved a single inch from its centuries old views of the world and it is thriving all over the world.
Food for thought possibly ?

Yes Albitz

World created within six days, and the 7th for God to rest; An ark big enough to take creatures in two by two from the World!  No, sorry too many fairy stories.  That is why Jesus arrived to give a lot more clarity on the true word of God as some very politically minded people had wrtiten their version of how things should be believed!  The New Testament is however basically the true word, although again some allowance must be made for the men recording it all hundreds of years after the events.

Agreed.Although the New Testament is if anything worse. It tells us that there is a being called god somewhere up in the heavens.He is all powerfu land omnipresent.It doesnt mention a Mrs god,but says he had a son somehow.He was an only child whom he loved very much,but for some vague reason this all powerful,all knowing being decided that the humans he created had become "sinners" whatever that means,and the only way to fix that problem would be to send his son to planet earth in the form of a human.
The chosen method of turning his son into human form was to plant him as a feotus into the womb of a newly married virgin and allow him to be born onto a poor family.Then he would somehow talk sense into the humans all over the known world and convince them to stop being "sinners".
This plan failed,so plan B was to allow the humans to crucify his son and this would allow a process whereby his blood would allow human sins to be washed away and forgiven if they saw sense and repented.If they repented they would then be granted eternal life by god,in the form of another being who lived with him up in the heavens for all eternity.
No sense or logic whatsoever to any of it.If someone wrote that book these days they would be sectioned.In fact if you read the apostle Pauls book of revelation,it would be hard to argue that he was anything other than a lunatic,or discovered LSD two thousand years before anyone else did.

Well Albitz.  What can I say, but I do believe the whole concept and so do millions of others. Christians have done for 2,000 years, and even a whole empire that had physical contact with Jesus, was converted to those beliefs.  Add to that some personal experiences and I know that God exists, along with good and evil spirits, with an afterlife of some form or another.  You either believe or you do not. I do

[cleggy]

Nothing that is said on this forum will alter your beliefs, Lizzie, nor mine. I think it's time for a nice cup of tea.

No, indeed!

A damn fine idea!! Two sugars with milk please

With a biscuit

If you like a lot of chocolate on your biscuit join their club

An OOF biscuit, that's an idea!  I'll certainly have it with my cup of tea!

I don't think you would Lizzie  Think of homosexual practices 

[albitz]

And thats my point I suppose.It doesnt make sense,its illogical,but people choose to believe it.Its called faith.
People of faith have always been around and always will be.They have always faced persecution,and they will be persecuted soon by this new law.Some people of faith also have faith in the Old Testament,as is their right.The basis of our laws and justice are from the 10 commandments in the Old Testament.I will bet good money that within the next decade,faith organisations will be forced to choose between their beliefs and the dictats of the state over this vote.
We have already seen it,with registrars who because of their faith couldnt perform same sex civil ceremonies being forced out of their jobs,even though they had been in those jobs long before the law came into force.Also Catholic adoption agencies being forced to close because their faith wouldnt allow them to be part of same sex adoption.
Historically this country has been a Christian country.The state and Church have been inextricably linked.The Monarch is both head of state and head of the Church of England.Recent events are combining to unravel that situation,and who knows where that is going to lead us. If it happens in the next decade,we may well have President Blair.After that simialr or worse ?
The law of (possibly) unintended consquences will come into play in the near future imo.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Nothing that is said on this forum will alter your beliefs, Lizzie, nor mine. I think it's time for a nice cup of tea.

No, indeed!

A damn fine idea!! Two sugars with milk please

With a biscuit

If you like a lot of chocolate on your biscuit join their club

An OOF biscuit, that's an idea!  I'll certainly have it with my cup of tea!

I don't think you would Lizzie  Think of homosexual practices 

No, I'm thinking of a pure heterosexual encounter!!........and a cup of sweet tea!

[cleggy]

Nothing that is said on this forum will alter your beliefs, Lizzie, nor mine. I think it's time for a nice cup of tea.

No, indeed!

A damn fine idea!! Two sugars with milk please

With a biscuit

If you like a lot of chocolate on your biscuit join their club

An OOF biscuit, that's an idea!  I'll certainly have it with my cup of tea!

I don't think you would Lizzie  Think of homosexual practices 

No, I'm thinking of a pure heterosexual encounter!!........and a cup of sweet tea!

Naughty but nice 

[Rods2]

And thats my point I suppose.It doesnt make sense,its illogical,but people choose to believe it.Its called faith.
People of faith have always been around and always will be.They have always faced persecution,and they will be persecuted soon by this new law.Some people of faith also have faith in the Old Testament,as is their right.The basis of our laws and justice are from the 10 commandments in the Old Testament.I will bet good money that within the next decade,faith organisations will be forced to choose between their beliefs and the dictats of the state over this vote.
We have already seen it,with registrars who because of their faith couldnt perform same sex civil ceremonies being forced out of their jobs,even though they had been in those jobs long before the law came into force.Also Catholic adoption agencies being forced to close because their faith wouldnt allow them to be part of same sex adoption.
Historically this country has been a Christian country.The state and Church have been inextricably linked.The Monarch is both head of state and head of the Church of England.Recent events are combining to unravel that situation,and who knows where that is going to lead us. If it happens in the next decade,we may well have President Blair.After that simialr or worse ?
The law of (possibly) unintended consquences will come into play in the near future imo.

Relax it will all be fixed in the next 30 years or so, when you will have either converted to Islam, started a new life probably in the US or been helped by those in charge to meet your maker. 

[albitz]

None of the above,but Im sure I will have pushed up quite a few daisys by then.

[Darth Loo-knee]

I don't mind gay men or women. Quite comfortable with my own sexuality unlike some. ....
Although something doesn't seem right that they can now marry

[STMO123]

I don't mind gay men or women. Quite comfortable with my own sexuality unlike some. ....
Although something doesn't seem right that they can now marry

I was quite neutral myself, Daz. But then Peter Tatchell and gay pride marches came along.

[Darth Loo-knee]

I don't mind gay men or women. Quite comfortable with my own sexuality unlike some. ....
Although something doesn't seem right that they can now marry

I was quite neutral myself, Daz. But then Peter Tatchell and gay pride marches came along.

Was gonna say opps em but not sure that would be the right thing too say 

[albitz]

I don't mind gay men or women. Quite comfortable with my own sexuality unlike some. ....
Although something doesn't seem right that they can now marry

I was quite neutral myself, Daz. But then Peter Tatchell and gay pride marches came along.

Was gonna say bugger em but not sure that would be the right thing too say 

Probably not.

[Darth Loo-knee]

I don't mind gay men or women. Quite comfortable with my own sexuality unlike some. ....
Although something doesn't seem right that they can now marry

I was quite neutral myself, Daz. But then Peter Tatchell and gay pride marches came along.

Was gonna say bugger em but not sure that would be the right thing too say 

Probably not.

Especially in front of STHomo....likes picking up soap as I remember 

[STMO123]

I don't mind gay men or women. Quite comfortable with my own sexuality unlike some. ....
Although something doesn't seem right that they can now marry

I was quite neutral myself, Daz. But then Peter Tatchell and gay pride marches came along.

Was gonna say bugger em but not sure that would be the right thing too say 

Probably not.

Especially in front of STHomo....likes picking up soap as I remember 

Depends who I'm picking it up for. Wouldn't pick up ugly's, maybe yours.

[albitz]

Best offer hes had in years,as hes such an ugly facker.