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How would you have voted if you were an MP ?

Would have voted for the bill
- 10 (21.3%)
Would have voted against the bill
- 30 (63.8%)
Dont know
- 3 (6.4%)
Mind your own business,I was never confused
- 4 (8.5%)

Total Members Voted: 34

Voting closed: 08 February 2013, 20:38:34


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albitz

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Re: Gay marriage vote.
« Reply #135 on: 07 February 2013, 23:31:45 »

Well,Ive been married for well over 30 years,so Im well on the way to "til death us do part". :y ;D
I agree to an extent with what you say.It used to be against church rules and morals for divorcees to remarry,but they decided at some point to move with the times.There are valid arguments imo,which say that the church shouldnt move with the times.
Getting back to the gay marriage/discrimination issue.The argument assumes that all gay people agree with changing the rules to allow gay marriage I would have thought,otherwise gays are discriminating against gays.
I know that Andrew Pierce ( an excellent intelligent journalist imo) has always argued against it.Ive just heard it said on Question Time that Christpher Biggins has said that Marriage is for men & women to enter into and raise a family,and Rupert Everett has said that children should be raised by a Mother & father.He has recieved death threats for saying so.All three of them are openly gay.
Mark my words,within a decade (at most) Churches will be forced by law to marry gay people or be forced to close by the state.
That to me will be when we have a fascist state.
« Last Edit: 07 February 2013, 23:35:27 by Albitz »
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« Reply #136 on: 07 February 2013, 23:43:28 »

Well,Ive been married for well over 30 years,so Im well on the way to "til death us do part". :y ;D
I agree to an extent with what you say.It used to be against church rules and morals for divorcees to remarry,but they decided at some point to move with the times.There are valid arguments imo,which say that the church shouldnt move with the times.
Getting back to the gay marriage/discrimination issue.The argument assumes that all gay people agree with changing the rules to allow gay marriage I would have thought,otherwise gays are discriminating against gays.
I know that Andrew Pierce ( an excellent intelligent journalist imo) has always argued against it.Ive just heard it said on Question Time that Christpher Biggins has said that Marriage is for men & women to enter into and raise a family,and Rupert Everett has said that children should be raised by a Mother & father.He has recieved death threats for saying so.All three of them are openly gay.
Mark my words,within a decade (at most) Churches will be forced by law to marry gay people or be forced to close by the state.
That to me will be when we have a fascist state.


Precisely.  A very perceptive point. :y
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Re: Gay marriage vote.
« Reply #137 on: 08 February 2013, 00:24:38 »

I'll be quite honest....it (the gay world) revolts me. . But I live and let live. I have my opinions, you have yours. I'll not belittle you for your beliefs, so I in return, do not expect you to belittle me.
As another poster said....I do not like it on my telly in my lounge. If you accept it well and good. Once upon a time, Mary Whitehouse campaigned about hetrosexual content on TV. Her generation were appalled by it. I couldn't see what the fuss was about. Different generations! Now present generations accept it without question. The same is now applying to the 'gay' syndrome. A generation thing again.
Do not call me a bigot, just because my beliefs are not the same as yours.
This forum has shown quite clearly, the nation is divided, and the topic has put friends against friends. A typical case of 'if not seized on by government', (why????) all would have carried on at a natural pace, until at some time in the future, mankind would possibly accept more readily what is happening to society.

You younger people have to remember that some of us have been on this earth a lot longer than you, we have been brought up in different times to you, have different views to you, be it on gays, immigration, NHS, capital punishment, education or whatever.
So do not preach to us as though we are bigots, racists, fascists etc. Everyone in a democracy is entitled to an opinion, and because we don't agree with your opinion, that is the way of the world. Just because your education has been different to ours, does not give you the right to chastise us for our feelings on things.

As a footnote.....I am not having a go at anyone in particular, friends will be friends,,,,if points of view end those friendships, then friendship was not there in the first place :y

Rant over :y .....and you are all still welcome to the Wycombe meet in May ;D ;D
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Re: Gay marriage vote.
« Reply #138 on: 08 February 2013, 00:35:47 »

I'll be quite honest....it (the gay world) revolts me. . But I live and let live. I have my opinions, you have yours. I'll not belittle you for your beliefs, so I in return, do not expect you to belittle me.
As another poster said....I do not like it on my telly in my lounge. If you accept it well and good. Once upon a time, Mary Whitehouse campaigned about hetrosexual content on TV. Her generation were appalled by it. I couldn't see what the fuss was about. Different generations! Now present generations accept it without question. The same is now applying to the 'gay' syndrome. A generation thing again.
Do not call me a bigot, just because my beliefs are not the same as yours.
This forum has shown quite clearly, the nation is divided, and the topic has put friends against friends. A typical case of 'if not seized on by government', (why????) all would have carried on at a natural pace, until at some time in the future, mankind would possibly accept more readily what is happening to society.

You younger people have to remember that some of us have been on this earth a lot longer than you, we have been brought up in different times to you, have different views to you, be it on gays, immigration, NHS, capital punishment, education or whatever.
So do not preach to us as though we are bigots, racists, fascists etc. Everyone in a democracy is entitled to an opinion, and because we don't agree with your opinion, that is the way of the world. Just because your education has been different to ours, does not give you the right to chastise us for our feelings on things.

As a footnote.....I am not having a go at anyone in particular, friends will be friends,,,,if points of view end those friendships, then friendship was not there in the first place :y

Rant over :y .....and you are all still welcome to the Wycombe meet in May ;D ;D

Wow!!!!!! nice post...... :y :y :y 
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cleggy

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Re: Gay marriage vote.
« Reply #139 on: 08 February 2013, 00:48:04 »

I'll be quite honest....it (the gay world) revolts me. . But I live and let live. I have my opinions, you have yours. I'll not belittle you for your beliefs, so I in return, do not expect you to belittle me.
As another poster said....I do not like it on my telly in my lounge. If you accept it well and good. Once upon a time, Mary Whitehouse campaigned about hetrosexual content on TV. Her generation were appalled by it. I couldn't see what the fuss was about. Different generations! Now present generations accept it without question. The same is now applying to the 'gay' syndrome. A generation thing again.
Do not call me a bigot, just because my beliefs are not the same as yours.
This forum has shown quite clearly, the nation is divided, and the topic has put friends against friends. A typical case of 'if not seized on by government', (why????) all would have carried on at a natural pace, until at some time in the future, mankind would possibly accept more readily what is happening to society.

You younger people have to remember that some of us have been on this earth a lot longer than you, we have been brought up in different times to you, have different views to you, be it on gays, immigration, NHS, capital punishment, education or whatever.
So do not preach to us as though we are bigots, racists, fascists etc. Everyone in a democracy is entitled to an opinion, and because we don't agree with your opinion, that is the way of the world. Just because your education has been different to ours, does not give you the right to chastise us for our feelings on things.

As a footnote.....I am not having a go at anyone in particular, friends will be friends,,,,if points of view end those friendships, then friendship was not there in the first place :y

Rant over :y .....and you are all still welcome to the Wycombe meet in May ;D ;D

Wow!!!!!! nice post...... :y :y :y

Well said Tony :y :y

Let me put it simply:-
Penis + Vagina = marriage  :y :y
Penis + Anus or Muff + Munch = Queer  :( :(
Don't mention Sheep  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Whatever your sexual preferences are, enjoy them with consenting adults just don't expect the rest of us to condone or accept it. :y
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Re: Gay marriage vote.
« Reply #140 on: 08 February 2013, 14:04:24 »

A very well put, reasoned response Terbert! :y
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