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Re: Horse meat fiasco
« Reply #15 on: 14 February 2013, 07:32:30 »

Still hasn't got it has he...! ;D


"Choice" by definition, has not one jot to do with it. Its a beef product, and to consume it means eating horse. This is not part of the deal.

Therefor its not a question of choice, but a question of lying, cheating and deception in the name of profiteering.

Think of it like PPI from the financial industry. ....we have been conned (again) except this time by the food industry.

And it's not on!
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« Reply #16 on: 14 February 2013, 07:36:58 »

I would add, the ramifications of this and other cons, will only serve to cost the consumer, it seems to me. A governing body will have to be implemented or beefed up (;D) at a cost to that industry. The industry will then pass that cost on to its customers.

All because some pikey tinker in Ireland pulled a fast one with no thought for anyone but himself!

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Re: Horse meat fiasco
« Reply #17 on: 14 February 2013, 09:00:54 »

The issue is purely one of knowing what is in the food you are eating. The label Beef should mean beef.
If you are eating processed food, you long ago signed away any right to know what you are eating...
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« Reply #18 on: 14 February 2013, 09:08:36 »

The issue is purely one of knowing what is in the food you are eating. The label Beef should mean beef.
If you are eating processed food, you long ago signed away any right to know what you are eating...

To a certain extent I agree that all those lips ears and arseholes have to get used somewhere but, call me picky if you will, I like to know specifically which animal species said extremities originated from.

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Re: Horse meat fiasco
« Reply #19 on: 14 February 2013, 09:15:22 »

The issue is purely one of knowing what is in the food you are eating. The label Beef should mean beef.
If you are eating processed food, you long ago signed away any right to know what you are eating...
Opps, just re-read that, and thought what high-and-mighty-pillock wrote that ;D

I have been known to eat such shite - usually at lunchtime, I get bored, walk around Tescos in Bletchley, and get tempted by something that claims to have meat in it.  However, I know the "meat" thats in it doesn't come anywhere close to matching what my idea of meat is. Much like a McClown's 100% hamburger, that I'd bet isn't my idea of beef. But won't stop me eating them ;D

Yes, the labelling should be accurate, but it's always, on this sort of product, going to be on the very edge of misleading.

In fact, using horse, there is a good chance you may actually get some proper meat in your Findus 100% beef lasagne...
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« Reply #20 on: 14 February 2013, 09:38:11 »

My worry is that, if they can't even trace what type of animal it came from, what hope have they got of knowing if the animal was fit for human consumption, and how the "meat" has subsequently been treated and stored? I suspect the answer is that they couldn't give a cr@p, because until last week, they never got pulled up on it.

Big supermarkets treat their suppliers (and employees, and customers) with total contempt, so it's not really much of a surprise to me that they get what they deserve in return.

If you care what you eat, unless it came from AndyB in a tin, it's probably best to steer clear. If I go to the farmer/butcher at the end of my road, even if they do accidentally sell me the wrong meat, I know it was only poor old Dobbin from the field at the back of my garden. ;D
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« Reply #21 on: 14 February 2013, 09:44:03 »

The issue is purely one of knowing what is in the food you are eating. The label Beef should mean beef.
If you are eating processed food, you long ago signed away any right to know what you are eating...
Opps, just re-read that, and thought what high-and-mighty-pillock wrote that ;D

I have been known to eat such shite - usually at lunchtime, I get bored, walk around Tescos in Bletchley, and get tempted by something that claims to have meat in it.  However, I know the "meat" thats in it doesn't come anywhere close to matching what my idea of meat is. Much like a McClown's 100% hamburger, that I'd bet isn't my idea of beef. But won't stop me eating them ;D

Yes, the labelling should be accurate, but it's always, on this sort of product, going to be on the very edge of misleading.

In fact, using horse, there is a good chance you may actually get some proper meat in your Findus 100% beef lasagne...
The upshot is, that if I see horse on the menu in Spain or wherever, I may now try it, where as I wouldn't before.

However, if its advertised as horse, and is actually something other than horse, then I would be equally annoyed.

As we all would be.


It's a bit like me selling you a new sport maxx TT, that is actually a part worn Falken 912 with a 10 year old manufacture date, half a dozen puncture repairs and been left out back in the sun for a year. .....ok, bad example, as you'd notice something was wrong the moment you drove the car.
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Re: Horse meat fiasco
« Reply #22 on: 14 February 2013, 11:08:35 »

But, 3 weeks ago, who was happy to eat a processed 100% beef lasange/burger/whatever, and isn't now?

Anyone with their hand up, do you really think it was cow meat, and not bollock and brain?

So, yes, I 100% agree that the labelling should be bang on. But even if it wasn't full of horse, the labelling is still misleading, as it will be the reconsitution of pressure washed carcass...  ...at best.
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« Reply #23 on: 14 February 2013, 11:11:56 »

The upshot is, that if I see horse on the menu in Spain or wherever, I may now try it, where as I wouldn't before.

However, if its advertised as horse, and is actually something other than horse, then I would be equally annoyed.
And you hope lamb is not goat.  I had a bad reaction to some "lamb" in Fuertaventura (thats not how you spell it - the island that sounds like VauxhallVentura), fortunately there was a biduet, so when I chundered and shat myself at the same time, it was less messy than it could have been ;D

Although, I doubt that was a reaction to goat, as I suspect I've eaten bucketloads of Billy, and it was just good old fashioned food poisioning
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Re: Horse meat fiasco
« Reply #24 on: 14 February 2013, 11:15:20 »

Still hasn't got it has he...! ;D


"Choice" by definition, has not one jot to do with it. Its a beef product, and to consume it means eating horse. This is not part of the deal.

Therefor its not a question of choice, but a question of lying, cheating and deception in the name of profiteering.
Think of it like PPI from the financial industry. ....we have been conned (again) except this time by the food industry.

And it's not on!

sounds more like a vauxhall dealership :o :o
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« Reply #25 on: 14 February 2013, 11:16:13 »

I don't think it's the horse meat that's a problem, although it would be nice to now exactly what we're eating, it's the Bute that they give the horses that can cause serious problems for humans
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« Reply #26 on: 14 February 2013, 11:53:31 »

The upshot is, that if I see horse on the menu in Spain or wherever, I may now try it, where as I wouldn't before.

However, if its advertised as horse, and is actually something other than horse, then I would be equally annoyed.
And you hope lamb is not goat.  I had a bad reaction to some "lamb" in Fuertaventura (thats not how you spell it - the island that sounds like VauxhallVentura), fortunately there was a biduet, so when I chundered and shat myself at the same time, it was less messy than it could have been ;D

Although, I doubt that was a reaction to goat, as I suspect I've eaten bucketloads of Billy, and it was just good old fashioned food poisioning

Oh goody, my favourite, the last word game. ;D

Now, if you read carefully you'll see the point was to Bionoc, who has completely missed the point... Do you see my point...? :)
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Re: Horse meat fiasco
« Reply #27 on: 14 February 2013, 12:38:56 »

whats the point ??? ::) :D
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« Reply #28 on: 14 February 2013, 12:47:14 »

whats the point ??? ::) :D

Quite do my dear Watson. :D
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« Reply #29 on: 14 February 2013, 14:56:11 »

whats the point ??? ::) :D

Quite do my dear Watson. :D

I get the point that someone else does not get the point, so I get the point so should they get the point; now does everyone now get the point? ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;)
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