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Started by MV6Danny, 15 April 2013, 18:41:58

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MV6Danny

Yes got the yellow wheels. But they need a good refurb.
Back in the MV6 again now

gstylebaby

Danny you mite not have done bad there mate if thats a real steinmetz kit on it.  I have a copy listed on e-bay at the moment but i'm sure if you pulled that off and put it up for sale you could move it.....Oh please tell me your not putting that spoiler on you mv6 (blue). ???

Entwood

According to the info I have ...

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.reynolds983/Manuals/Omega2002Manual.pdf

page 224

The kerb weight of a 3.0 MV6 is not listed .. so using the figures for a standard 3.2 elite ... and the figures of my VIN plate - which are .. spookily .. the same .. :)

Gross vehicle weight : 2200 kgs
Gross train weight : 4075

this gives a maximum "tow" weight of 4075-2200 = 1875

The subject car is a 2.5 TD -gross weight not listed but using the 2.6 as a comparison .. 2180 (ish)

so without the trailer already some 300 kgs over the top ..... now add a large and heavy twin axle  trailer.....

Remember ... Police don't care about ACTUAL weights .. they always go by PLATED weights, VOSA might do actuals, polce won't IME .. :)

tunnie

Yup go with that, when I towed a certain admins dead V6 Elite back, as my 2.2 was a CD it was just under the legal weight. Think I worked it out as low spec can tow an Elite but not the other way around  ;D

Talking a few kg's here so doubt plod will notice it really.

dazzerM

The 3500kg is on the licence, where the gross train weight is dependant on the vehicle towing it

https://www.gov.uk/towing-with-car/car-towing-weight-and-width-limits

I only found this out recently when I looked into towing a caravan  :y
Darren

MV6Matt

Quote from: MV6Danny on 16 April 2013, 11:46:32
Yes got the yellow wheels. But they need a good refurb.

Yes, I bet they do!

I really liked the look of them in the photo's where he'd lent them against the other wheels.
Not so sure I like the colour though!

That's one original motor! ;D ;D ;D
"You only need two tools: WD40 and duct tape. If it doesn't move and it should, use WD40. If it moves and it shouldn't, use duct tape"
(thanks Ian)

Andy B

Quote from: Entwood on 16 April 2013, 16:56:30....
The subject car is a 2.5 TD -gross weight not listed but using the 2.6 as a comparison .. 2180 (ish) .......

Yep! Missed that bit ..... I was thinking kerb rather than gross weight. My gross is a little less than yours, so presumably the kerb is too, but not that much different.  :y  :y

Andy B

Quote from: dazzerM on 16 April 2013, 18:56:29
The 3500kg is on the licence,  .....
.....

Depends whether your licence is on parchment .....  ;)  ;)

kevinp58

Quote from: Andy B on 16 April 2013, 19:27:47
Quote from: dazzerM on 16 April 2013, 18:56:29
The 3500kg is on the licence,  .....
.....

Depends whether your licence is on parchment .....  ;)  ;)







Mine is on stone tablet.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Entwood

Quote from: dazzerM on 16 April 2013, 18:56:29
The 3500kg is on the licence, where the gross train weight is dependant on the vehicle towing it

https://www.gov.uk/towing-with-car/car-towing-weight-and-width-limits

I only found this out recently when I looked into towing a caravan  :y

You must be a youngun then .. us oldies have different rules ..

QuoteLicences held before 1 January 1997
If you passed your car test before 1 January 1997 you are generally entitled to drive a vehicle and trailer combination up to 8.25 tonnes MAM.

Grandfather rights to a B+E ... ;) ;) ;) ;)

Andy B

Quote from: Entwood on 16 April 2013, 20:08:31..... us oldies have  ..
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Speak for yourself Nige!  ::)  ::)  ::)

MV6Danny

Quote from: gstylebaby on 16 April 2013, 14:26:59
Danny you mite not have done bad there mate if thats a real steinmetz kit on it.  I have a copy listed on e-bay at the moment but i'm sure if you pulled that off and put it up for sale you could move it.....Oh please tell me your not putting that spoiler on you mv6 (blue). ???
Well I do really like the spoiler so might end up on my mv6 when the diesel dies

 

QuoteLicences held before 1 January 1997
If you passed your car test before 1 January 1997 you are generally entitled to drive a vehicle and trailer combination up to 8.25 tonnes MAM.

Grandfather rights to a B+E ... ;) ;) ;) ;)
[/quote]
I passed my test in 96 so I should automatically have these entitlements. Says BE on back of my licence. :y
Back in the MV6 again now

Entwood

Quote from: MV6Danny on 17 April 2013, 02:12:28
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Quote from: gstylebaby on 16 April 2013, 14:26:59
Danny you mite not have done bad there mate if thats a real steinmetz kit on it.  I have a copy listed on e-bay at the moment but i'm sure if you pulled that off and put it up for sale you could move it.....Oh please tell me your not putting that spoiler on you mv6 (blue). ???
Well I do really like the spoiler so might end up on my mv6 when the diesel dies

 

QuoteLicences held before 1 January 1997
If you passed your car test before 1 January 1997 you are generally entitled to drive a vehicle and trailer combination up to 8.25 tonnes MAM.

Grandfather rights to a B+E ... ;) ;) ;) ;)
I passed my test in 96 so I should automatically have these entitlements. Says BE on back of my licence. :y

So, you were probably legal to tow the weight license wise .. but the car wasn't weight wise !!!  :)  Still you weren't pulled so no worries ....:)

Anyone else contemplating this .. think twice ... towing massively overweight can affect many things - from structural damage to the towing vehicle, through brakes to possibly invalidating insurance.

Always will be your choice .. but think about it first .. :)

Seth

Quote from: Entwood on 17 April 2013, 10:54:57
So, you were probably legal to tow the weight license wise .. but the car wasn't weight wise !!!  :)  Still you weren't pulled so no worries ....:)

Anyone else contemplating this .. think twice ... towing massively overweight can affect many things - from structural damage to the towing vehicle, through brakes to possibly invalidating insurance.

Always will be your choice .. but think about it first .. :)

^^^  Exactly what Entwood says  ^^^
Gettin' seriously hacked-off by those who ignore the wisdom of proven experience ... and Forum guidelines.

albitz

Ive towed Omegas with my Omega using an A frame and imo (legalities aside) its right on the limit of capabilities.I really wouldnt want to do it with the extra weight of a trailer added on.Its all ok while your ambling gently along on a clear road,but if anything happens which requires hard braking or a quick change of direction the towed car could very easily take control of the towing car.