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[dbug]

I seem to remember that Van Helsing is not all he seems  - (in disguise?)

[STMO123]

I seem to remember that Van Helsing is not all he seems  - (in disguise?)

Yes. He pops up to annoy people when things are quiet.

[hotel21]

To bring this back to the top, whilst I still have my wee huffy puss on ( ) yes, a poll may or may not have any lasting effect in the future actions of the admin team but it certaily gives a testing of the water as regards what the forum membership at large want from OOF.

Initially it was an overwhelming, almost 3 to 1 advantage, for those wanting to continue political discussion.  I note that it was generally the more vocal of the membership that were prompt to vote and respond on the thread.

This has now dropped to nigh on 50/50 possibly due to the silent ones eventually casting a vote.

To requote myself from earlier in this thread-

What has become apparent as the forum has evolved is something that has been discussed many times previously - used to be a right laugh on here, sides sore at the keyboard, partner wondering what the fek I'm laughing at etc etc.

Perhaps now the omega is fast becoming drift or banger material then the 'enthusiast' of past is becoming a rare beast. With that comes differing folks and their attitudes which when infused into a forum bred from a diffent mindset comes areas where confuddlement and misunderstanding abound.

Perhaps the admin team is too much old skool and not able or willing to accept change?

Perhaps the membership base has changed substantially that OOF is a shadow of its former self?  Perhaps that's a good thing?  Should the longer established members chastise or reeducate the up and coming youngsters. Or vice versa?

I still maintain that gendiss at present reads as very much a closed shop to newbies. It is an extremely difficult area for someone to become 'accepted'.  One way I see for this to be addressed is if the core of posters in gendiss could spread their talents into ther sections and not just a 5 word welcome in newbies.

Comments??

[Lizzie_Zoom]

To bring this back to the top, whilst I still have my wee huffy puss on ( ) yes, a poll may or may not have any lasting effect in the future actions of the admin team but it certaily gives a testing of the water as regards what the forum membership at large want from OOF.

Initially it was an overwhelming, almost 3 to 1 advantage, for those wanting to continue political discussion.  I note that it was generally the more vocal of the membership that were prompt to vote and respond on the thread.

This has now dropped to nigh on 50/50 possibly due to the silent ones eventually casting a vote.

To requote myself from earlier in this thread-

What has become apparent as the forum has evolved is something that has been discussed many times previously - used to be a right laugh on here, sides sore at the keyboard, partner wondering what the fek I'm laughing at etc etc.

Perhaps now the omega is fast becoming drift or banger material then the 'enthusiast' of past is becoming a rare beast. With that comes differing folks and their attitudes which when infused into a forum bred from a diffent mindset comes areas where confuddlement and misunderstanding abound.

Perhaps the admin team is too much old skool and not able or willing to accept change?

Perhaps the membership base has changed substantially that OOF is a shadow of its former self?  Perhaps that's a good thing?  Should the longer established members chastise or reeducate the up and coming youngsters. Or vice versa?

I still maintain that gendiss at present reads as very much a closed shop to newbies. It is an extremely difficult area for someone to become 'accepted'.  One way I see for this to be addressed is if the core of posters in gendiss could spread their talents into ther sections and not just a 5 word welcome in newbies.

Comments??

Hasn't enough been said already?

[hotel21]

Not as regards my requote, I feel.

 

[STMO123]

I can't spread my talents. I don't have any.

Still, I'll try not to beat myself up too much.

[cem_devecioglu]

I can't spread my talents. I don't have any.

Still, I'll try not to beat myself up too much.

you had already .. as much as others can take
 
by the way forbidding those political threads will have same effect cutting salt and pepper from meals.. 
 
 

[STMO123]

Yes, I agree, Cem. As far as I can see, this can only go two ways. There is no chance of changing the way people behave in gendiss. I've said as much before.
So...we  either carry on regardless or we get rid of this section and omega owners forum becomes a car forum. I don't think there would be much input from people who actually owned one, because most of those people are pretty clued up and there aren't that many to be bought (by newbies), but an area like gen car chat would probably keep it ticking over nicely.

[STMO123]

And there would still be meets, of course, but, from what I can gather, they are becoming sparsely attended.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

Yes, I agree, Cem. As far as I can see, this can only go two ways. There is no chance of changing the way people behave in gendiss. I've said as much before.
So...we  either carry on regardless or we get rid of this section and omega owners forum becomes a car forum. I don't think there would be much input from people who actually owned one, because most of those people are pretty clued up and there aren't that many to be bought (by newbies), but an area like gen car chat would probably keep it ticking over nicely.

Thoroughly agree!

I believe that the ball is now in the Admins court and what they want will rule as it must be.  Hence my (arrogant??) belief that no more can be said that will constructively assist the debate. It is just a case of waiting for the Admins to vote.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

And there would still be meets, of course, but, from what I can gather, they are becoming sparsely attended.

After attending one way back, I think I know why

[STMO123]

And, if I were a mod, the question I would be asking myself is: With Spring upon us and the weather about to turn, my mood should be one of contentment. Do I really want to spend my evenings breaking up arguments between people I don't even know?
Well punks...do ya?

[Munch]

Comments??

Nobody wants to wannabe admin on this one then?
If the centre of this problem happens to coincidentally be the same person who had TB searching through reams of data looking for evidence of alleged abuse,that did not exist,then that person should be removed.They should be removed immediately,and publicly,according to guidelines of a abusing another member/members.That being both the admin and the member accused of sending abusive pm's in the first place.

I find it difficult to understand why that has not already happened.There is an underlying poisonous element here that needs cutting out. Both for the greater good of the forum,and the credibility of the admin team.

This has gone on way too long.Admin need to make life easier for themselves 1st off.The rest will follow.



TB's posts on this thread seem to have been completely ignored by everyone. 

[STMO123]

Comments??

Nobody wants to wannabe admin on this one then?
If the centre of this problem happens to coincidentally be the same person who had TB searching through reams of data looking for evidence of alleged buse,that did not exist,then that person should be removed.They should be removed immediately,and publicly,according to guidelines of a abusing another member/members.That being both the admin and the member accused of sending abusive pm's in the first place.

I find it difficult to understand why that has not already happened.There is an underlying poisonous element here that needs cutting out. Both for the greater good of the forum,and the credibility of the admin team
This has gone on way too long.Admin need to make life easier for themselves 1st off.The rest will follow.



TB's posts on this thread seem to have been completely ignored by everyone. 

Who's TB?

[STMO123]

And, more to the point, who are you, Munchie Boy?