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[chrisgixer]

Polar opposite on the result of the poll as well.

Maybe another moan to admin, on the sticky subject this time.

[05omegav6]

As and when the lights go out, I shall simply go and sit in the car to watch tv and charge my phone. If it's cold, I might even put the seat heater on...

[albitz]

Polar opposite on the result of the poll as well.

Maybe another moan to admin, on the sticky subject this time.

Que ?? 

[Nickbat]

I still think the simplest,easiest solution is to give politics its own sticky,the same as jokes have,and then those who want to get involved can do so,and those who don't can very easily ignore it.
Seemples really. After all,iirc the vote on the subject was very evenly split,with a small majority in favour of allowing it to stay ? 
To put another perspective on the observations already posted. Once the "political" (in the broader sense) threads disappeared from genchat,it initially became what I can only describe as resembling the facebook page of a gay teenager.Then we had the air freshener thing again,which to me was another pretty contrived attempt at reintroducing the fun element.
It failed miserably imo.We cant turn back the clock. The days of side splitting hilarity are gone and they aint coming back unfortunately.
It was those particular people at that particular time.It was spontaneous which is why it was so hilarious,but you cant recreate something like that unfortunately.
Now,imo its settled down into mediocrity.The occasional thread of some interest,but almost no debate or discussion which will stimulate the mind or provoke thought.
My view of course,which undoubtedly be the polar opposite of some others.

Spot on, Albs.

Even if just for a trial period, it would give a real indication of how much the OOF fraternity want to discuss serious issues. 

[chrisgixer]

Whoops, made a mistake whilst editing. Sorry, nothing to add. 

Nik, why would I read it again, and again, and again. Your right by the way.


Now, having agreed with you, what about my views? And the rest of the membership not interested in polotics every day after its been in the media ALL day long already.

We're all aware of what your saying, and its repeated to us, again generally speaking as if we're idiots that lived under the stairs all our lives.

It would be unfair to say there's isn't genuine interest occasionally, some of your stuff (as a faction) is very interesting and informative, but everything in moderation as they say.

Express them. It's what a forum is all about.

exactly, I do, others do, and what do we get in return.

Read TB's post for the result.

Huh? As I read it, your views on politics are there shouldn't be any views on politics.

That's helpful.

Indeed, as you read it. Now go read what's actually there.

Your not getting away with it this time, as said, my views are very similar. Preaching though, there is no need. Even working best way according to your(factions) take on the readership, your irritating half the audience on your own admission.

Not that you'll read that as its written of course.


You might argue that a concidered acceptable level of polotics to some, could equal zero in your(factions) eyes. True enough there I suppose.

[chrisgixer]

I still think the simplest,easiest solution is to give politics its own sticky,the same as jokes have,and then those who want to get involved can do so,and those who don't can very easily ignore it.
Seemples really. After all,iirc the vote on the subject was very evenly split,with a small majority in favour of allowing it to stay ? 
To put another perspective on the observations already posted. Once the "political" (in the broader sense) threads disappeared from genchat,it initially became what I can only describe as resembling the facebook page of a gay teenager.Then we had the air freshener thing again,which to me was another pretty contrived attempt at reintroducing the fun element.
It failed miserably imo.We cant turn back the clock. The days of side splitting hilarity are gone and they aint coming back unfortunately.
It was those particular people at that particular time.It was spontaneous which is why it was so hilarious,but you cant recreate something like that unfortunately.
Now,imo its settled down into mediocrity.The occasional thread of some interest,but almost no debate or discussion which will stimulate the mind or provoke thought.
My view of course,which undoubtedly be the polar opposite of some others.

Spot on, Albs.

Even if just for a trial period, it would give a real indication of how much the OOF fraternity want to discuss serious issues. 

I'd vote for that. Good work Albs.

[Nickbat]

Whoops, made a mistake whilst editing. Sorry, nothing to add. 

Nik, why would I read it again, and again, and again. Your right by the way.


Now, having agreed with you, what about my views? And the rest of the membership not interested in polotics every day after its been in the media ALL day long already.

We're all aware of what your saying, and its repeated to us, again generally speaking as if we're idiots that lived under the stairs all our lives.

It would be unfair to say there's isn't genuine interest occasionally, some of your stuff (as a faction) is very interesting and informative, but everything in moderation as they say.

Express them. It's what a forum is all about.

exactly, I do, others do, and what do we get in return.

Read TB's post for the result.

Huh? As I read it, your views on politics are there shouldn't be any views on politics.

That's helpful.

Indeed, as you read it. Now go read what's actually there.

Your not getting away with it this time, as said, my views are very similar. Preaching though, there is no need. Even working best way according to your(factions) take on the readership, your irritating half the audience on your own admission.

Not that you'll read that as its written of course.


You might argue that a concidered acceptable level of polotics to some, could equal zero in your(factions) eyes. True enough there I suppose.

..and you're irritating the other half!! We've got it sown up, Gixer, old chum. 

[chrisgixer]

Come on, NEXT.

I'm enjoying this, as Maggie would say.

[chrisgixer]

Whoops, made a mistake whilst editing. Sorry, nothing to add. 

Nik, why would I read it again, and again, and again. Your right by the way.


Now, having agreed with you, what about my views? And the rest of the membership not interested in polotics every day after its been in the media ALL day long already.

We're all aware of what your saying, and its repeated to us, again generally speaking as if we're idiots that lived under the stairs all our lives.

It would be unfair to say there's isn't genuine interest occasionally, some of your stuff (as a faction) is very interesting and informative, but everything in moderation as they say.

Express them. It's what a forum is all about.

exactly, I do, others do, and what do we get in return.

Read TB's post for the result.

Huh? As I read it, your views on politics are there shouldn't be any views on politics.

That's helpful.

Indeed, as you read it. Now go read what's actually there.

Your not getting away with it this time, as said, my views are very similar. Preaching though, there is no need. Even working best way according to your(factions) take on the readership, your irritating half the audience on your own admission.

Not that you'll read that as its written of course.


You might argue that a concidered acceptable level of polotics to some, could equal zero in your(factions) eyes. True enough there I suppose.

..and you're irritating the other half!! We've got it sown up, Gixer, old chum. 

Your owed about 4years of preaching the way I see it.

[05omegav6]

Having read the post you just summarized Nickbat, the suggestion is not that there should be no political discussion, merely that it should be reduced in volume so as not overwhelm Gen Diss

If you want to change the world, a happy go lucky car forum is the wrong place. Writing to your MP/MEP would be more effective. If you already do that, and you really feel the need to tell someone, then simply post summat along the lines of...

'I heard/saw/read about XYZ, and felt it important enough to write to ABC about it and just thought it worthy of mention'. That anyone interested in that particular item can go off and research it for themselves and draw their own conclusions free of prejudice.

It is quite frustrating to read four or five 'stories' in the paper on a Saturday, all telling the same story from five different authors, when I saw them on the MSN home page two days earlier when I checked my emails. Then on Sunday and Monday they get repeated here, having been posted by the same few people.

Speaking for myself, if I wanted to read the same dross day in day out I would join Facebook and Twitter and have the Daily Mail streamed to my phone.

[chrisgixer]

Having read the post you just summarized Nickbat, the suggestion is not that there should be no political discussion, merely that it should be reduced in volume so as not overwhelm Gen Diss

If you want to change the world, a happy go lucky car forum is the wrong place. Writing to your MP/MEP would be more effective. If you already do that, and you really feel the need to tell someone, then simply post summat along the lines of...

'I heard/saw/read about XYZ, and felt it important enough to write to ABC about it and just thought it worthy of mention'. That anyone interested in that particular item can go off and research it for themselves and draw their own conclusions free of prejudice.

It is quite frustrating to read four or five 'stories' in the paper on a Saturday, all telling the same story from five different authors, when I saw them on the MSN home page two days earlier when I checked my emails. Then on Sunday and Monday they get repeated here, having been posted by the same few people.

Speaking for myself, if I wanted to read the same dross day in day out I would join Facebook and Twitter and have the Daily Mail streamed to my phone.

Without wanting to sound facetious at all...       Spot on Al.

[albitz]

Polar opposite on the result of the poll as well.

Maybe another moan to admin, on the sticky subject this time.

Result of poll 53.2% voted to allow Politics. 46.8% voted against. Is that the 4th one this weekend ? I cant keep up.

[Vamps]

Having read the post you just summarized Nickbat, the suggestion is not that there should be no political discussion, merely that it should be reduced in volume so as not overwhelm Gen Diss

If you want to change the world, a happy go lucky car forum is the wrong place. Writing to your MP/MEP would be more effective. If you already do that, and you really feel the need to tell someone, then simply post summat along the lines of...

'I heard/saw/read about XYZ, and felt it important enough to write to ABC about it and just thought it worthy of mention'. That anyone interested in that particular item can go off and research it for themselves and draw their own conclusions free of prejudice.

It is quite frustrating to read four or five 'stories' in the paper on a Saturday, all telling the same story from five different authors, when I saw them on the MSN home page two days earlier when I checked my emails. Then on Sunday and Monday they get repeated here, having been posted by the same few people.

Speaking for myself, if I wanted to read the same dross day in day out I would join Facebook and Twitter and have the Daily Mail streamed to my phone.

Without wanting to sound facetious at all...       Spot on Al.

Why bother posting on here then if it is not for you? I ignore what I don't want to read, I find it really hard to comprehend this, members complaining, I mostly ignore the politics, certainly don't get into discussion if I am not interested in the subject matter.....

[Steve B]

If some people had nothing to moan about, they'd bloody moan... (Sigh)

There's actually no point conversing with the polotics clique, they read what they want to read, reguardless of what's actually said anyway.



I would add though, I actually rarely disagree with them. Things is I rarely disagree with them an awfull lot. Several times a day in fact. After I've seen it on the news, the papers, web sites blah blah bloody blah.

Your right guys. now for the love of god, move on.

Well i agree with this sentence

[SIR Philbutt]

.........

Why bother posting on here then if it is not for you? I ignore what I don't want to read, I find it really hard to comprehend this, members complaining, I mostly ignore the politics, certainly don't get into discussion if I am not interested in the subject matter.....

Thing is none of this is about politics or debate/agreement/disagreement on a certain issue such as green energy at Glastonbury.
It's about who can have the last word on whatever the subject is. Sorry but that's how I see it