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Re: Spanish train crash
« Reply #15 on: 25 July 2013, 12:39:03 »

Either way, holy cow  :o :o :o  :'( :'( :'(
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Re: Spanish train crash
« Reply #16 on: 25 July 2013, 12:45:18 »

I wonder if the driver suffered a medical condition  :(
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Re: Spanish train crash
« Reply #17 on: 25 July 2013, 12:49:02 »

Its one of these types (I suspect its the hybrid one as there is clearly an MTU diesel engine in one of the shots).

http://www.renfe.com/EN/viajeros/nuestros_trenes/alvia_s130.html

As you can see the coach roof lowers which makes it appear like its off the rails
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Re: Spanish train crash
« Reply #18 on: 25 July 2013, 12:49:30 »

I wonder if the driver suffered a medical condition  :(

He will do when hes banged up in a spanish prison for a bit
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Re: Spanish train crash
« Reply #19 on: 25 July 2013, 12:49:56 »

It's lower than the engine at the front. Just to be clear what I'm on about.

Although its difficult to tell the extent if the curve from that low angle.

you could well be right as it does look that way,as said shocking :'( :'(
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Re: Spanish train crash
« Reply #20 on: 25 July 2013, 12:51:18 »

Freeze frame snap shot. It looks like the first carriage is already in trouble to me. No?


Does look that way, you can see the gap after the power car, that said they are quite odd looking even close up:

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Re: Spanish train crash
« Reply #21 on: 25 July 2013, 12:53:22 »

Ah, here we go, one of the hybrids

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Re: Spanish train crash
« Reply #22 on: 25 July 2013, 12:54:00 »

Note the extra diesel power car module  :y
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Re: Spanish train crash
« Reply #23 on: 25 July 2013, 12:55:43 »

I see  :y

So that extra unit is diesel, which generates the electric to drive the other 2 power cars?

Assume that's aimed for use in areas without over-head wires?  :-\
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Re: Spanish train crash
« Reply #24 on: 25 July 2013, 12:56:50 »

I see  :y

So that extra unit is diesel, which generates the electric to drive the other 2 power cars?

Assume that's aimed for use in areas without over-head wires?  :-\

Yep, means they can go over all routes and there is one at each end

Clearly in this case its on OHLE
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Re: Spanish train crash
« Reply #25 on: 25 July 2013, 13:02:54 »

Very sad  :'( Sure was some speed
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Re: Spanish train crash
« Reply #26 on: 25 July 2013, 13:12:20 »

How long before auto speed reduction devices are fitted to trains to overide the driver given the speed limit for a given piece of track and GPS etc.?
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Re: Spanish train crash
« Reply #27 on: 25 July 2013, 13:17:39 »

It's lower than the engine at the front. Just to be clear what I'm on about.

Although its difficult to tell the extent if the curve from that low angle.

Freeze frame it just as the rear loco comes into view and that end looks the same with the step; though I thought the same as you at first, it took a few goes through before I realised the tail end had an identical step. Which makes sense given what Mark has posted.
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Re: Spanish train crash
« Reply #28 on: 25 July 2013, 13:18:51 »

Yeah see what you mean. But I don't know, something's not right, it looks.... Out of alignment to me. :-\

Although its clearly doing more than 80k if that's real time.

Good god. Imagine being a passenger on that.
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Re: Spanish train crash
« Reply #29 on: 25 July 2013, 13:26:22 »

Bbc news just showed that video, partly ::) along with a higher up shot of the track further round the bend. It exits a tunnel, turns, goes under the road bridge, then appears in the video.

So unless something fell off the road bridge onto the track that didnt derail the engine but did the carriages, it looks difficult to conclude not speed related going by that.

Driver comments do not suggest a health issue.
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