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chrisgixer

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Re: Mv8 project
« Reply #15 on: 19 August 2013, 23:48:32 »

With regard to the autobox / box section issue - may I suggest you have a chat with Sassanach, he really knows his stuff when it comes to metalwork and I'm sure could fabricate anything you need.

General question, is this likely to be LPG'd at some point?

Most likely will be lpg'd.

As you may have seen me mention before, I'm a one car does all type of person. So I want it to be my daily driver, and be quick and comfy with loads of toys.
So lpg will be  fitted eventually.

Good point re Sassanach. :y
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« Reply #16 on: 19 August 2013, 23:50:53 »

As far as weight distribution goes, if the mounts sit roughly where a desmonds are, then it ought to be about the same :-\

Its noticeable that the suspension has NOT sunk to anywhere near the 3.2's ride height. So that lump is much lighter, even though there's more fluids and hardware to be fitted yet.
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« Reply #17 on: 19 August 2013, 23:54:40 »

Given that the selector switch doesn't quite fit, it's about 10% smaller than what was fitted, it could be worth sourcing one from a Camaro, or similar, complete with the linkage.

The linkages have a reasonable amount of adjustment on them. Just need to bear in mind that alot of yanks have column shifts, which rules out some SUV parts.
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« Reply #18 on: 19 August 2013, 23:57:42 »

As far as weight distribution goes, if the mounts sit roughly where a desmonds are, then it ought to be about the same :-\

Its noticeable that the suspension has NOT sunk to anywhere near the 3.2's ride height. So that lump is much lighter, even though there's more fluids and hardware to be fitted yet.

Although the gearbox is heavier, it is also longer. So any extra weight there is a touch further back in the wheelbase. Also there is alot of stuff missing, maybe 30kgs or so :-\
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Re: Mv8 project
« Reply #19 on: 20 August 2013, 00:00:00 »

Looking hopeful, IMHO. I'm guessing that box section is only really there to provide strength for the transmission mountings, as I don't believe it runs the length of the car? Guessing, though, which isn't really good enough. I'm sure something as strong could be fabricated in a different shape if required.

How's it looking for routing a steering column around the engine to a rack?

From a weight distribution perspective, as far back as you can get it will almost certainly be best.
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Re: Mv8 project
« Reply #20 on: 20 August 2013, 00:04:53 »

From memory, the box section isn't needed. Obviously it'll be reasonably easy to knock up som new reinforcement if needed  ;)
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« Reply #21 on: 20 August 2013, 00:10:41 »

Looking hopeful, IMHO. I'm guessing that box section is only really there to provide strength for the transmission mountings, as I don't believe it runs the length of the car? Guessing, though, which isn't really good enough. I'm sure something as strong could be fabricated in a different shape if required.

How's it looking for routing a steering column around the engine to a rack?

From a weight distribution perspective, as far back as you can get it will almost certainly be best.

I'm thinking along those lines re the box section tbh. The floor pan can be seen through the holes for the various captive nuts etc, so its just been welded on to give the mount holes.


Rack is from a Nissan Almera, not exactly exotic but its what the Rats boys fitted to there 1000bhp lexus v8 with t56 box. Although that had a custom fit bell housing so not sure how that will compare to the ls bell housing and bolt pattern. But first offerings look hopeful.

For and aft engine position looks to have a fair bit of play, until the rack and subframe crossmember interfaces with the sump and rear gearbox mounts to block. That will be the decider there. It easily has clearance for a rack, as it had with its original car, holden gts r8 iirc. which also has a rack. :y
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« Reply #22 on: 20 August 2013, 00:13:08 »

From memory, the box section isn't needed. Obviously it'll be reasonably easy to knock up som new reinforcement if needed  ;)

There are several holes along it, presumably one each for four pot, V6 and Tdi, plus auto and manual versions of each engine :-\

Choose the holes closest and trim the rest... or, looking at the book I refered to earlier, remove the boxes, and bolt the mounting laterally through the chassis rails :-\
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« Reply #23 on: 20 August 2013, 04:37:15 »

Looks an interesting project Chris - all the best with it.

Are you Omega less whilst this project is ongoing - or do you have multiple cars available? As you said, it could be some time before its finished.

Thanks - Rob
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« Reply #24 on: 20 August 2013, 08:16:42 »

Looks an interesting project Chris - all the best with it.

Are you Omega less whilst this project is ongoing - or do you have multiple cars available? As you said, it could be some time before its finished.

Thanks - Rob
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Re: Mv8 project
« Reply #25 on: 20 August 2013, 09:32:05 »

From memory, the box section isn't needed. Obviously it'll be reasonably easy to knock up som new reinforcement if needed  ;)

There are several holes along it, presumably one each for four pot, V6 and Tdi, plus auto and manual versions of each engine :-\

Choose the holes closest and trim the rest... or, looking at the book I refered to earlier, remove the boxes, and bolt the mounting laterally through the chassis rails :-\

Personal preference... Take the whole lot out and fit custom mount :y Then it can be put exactly where it's wanted!
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Re: Mv8 project
« Reply #26 on: 20 August 2013, 09:39:59 »

From memory, the box section isn't needed. Obviously it'll be reasonably easy to knock up som new reinforcement if needed  ;)

There are several holes along it, presumably one each for four pot, V6 and Tdi, plus auto and manual versions of each engine :-\

Choose the holes closest and trim the rest... or, looking at the book I refered to earlier, remove the boxes, and bolt the mounting laterally through the chassis rails :-\

Personal preference... Take the whole lot out and fit custom mount :y Then it can be put exactly where it's wanted!

Yep. There's going to be some fabricating and welding going on anyway, so might as well just put everything where it needs to be once you've decided on position. :y
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« Reply #27 on: 20 August 2013, 09:41:51 »

Rack is from a Nissan Almera, not exactly exotic but its what the Rats boys fitted to there 1000bhp lexus v8 with t56 box. Although that had a custom fit bell housing so not sure how that will compare to the ls bell housing and bolt pattern. But first offerings look hopeful.

For and aft engine position looks to have a fair bit of play, until the rack and subframe crossmember interfaces with the sump and rear gearbox mounts to block. That will be the decider there. It easily has clearance for a rack, as it had with its original car, holden gts r8 iirc. which also has a rack. :y

So the rack is going behind the engine? I'd assumed you'd move it in front?
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« Reply #28 on: 20 August 2013, 09:56:22 »

Hmm... Rack behind engine. Is there enough space to articulate the steering column suitably to operate it? :-\ :-\ Time will tell I s'pose but definitely something that needs considering early on ;)
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« Reply #29 on: 20 August 2013, 10:56:04 »

Looks very interesting, hope you intend to keep it a sleeper? What is the donor car, can't quite make it out?

Might have to pop along some point and have a gander/lend a hand.

Good luck with it all  :y

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