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[Darth Loo-knee]

We have moved house and the hot water pressure is not good enough to reach a shower head so have thouhht about an electric shower...is there any alternative? ?
Cheers

[Andy H]

Something like this? http://www.mirashowers.co.uk/onlinecatalog/detail.htm?productNumber=Event%20XS%20All-in-One%20Power%20Shower,%20Manual&section=Power%20showers

Assuming you have a traditional tank and hot water cylinder......

[Andy H]

I should mention that anything involving electrickery in a bathroom (zones 1 & 2) needs a suitably qualified electrician to do the wiring.

[pscocoa]

http://www.stuart-turner.co.uk/products/monsoon/s30-bar-twin

Used these for years

[Andy H]

Alternatively........

When we moved in to this house we had the same problem. There was an electric shower (which I hated).The cold water tank was in the airing cupboard and lower than the shower head.

We were going to replace the old boiler anyway so I took out the old system and put the biggest condensing combi boiler in. That gives an excellent shower using mains pressure, no pump required. (And our gas and electricity bills both dropped by 50%)

[pscocoa]

And Monsoons do make some noise so depends where you site it. The advantage is that with 2 bathrooms it runs both showers at same time.

[TheBoy]

A suitable pump will do it.  Electric showers are best avaoided IME, so if you have a proper hot water cylinder, use gas heated hot water.

If you have a combi boiler (ie, no hot water cylinder), I'd be inclined to rip it out. Stupid, useless things.

[Gaffers]

You making a porno, dazzle?

[chrisgixer]

When we researched our we where told, a Monsoon pump depends on what boiler type?

If condensing with a hot water tank, you can have a pump.

If combi, the pump will suck the water through the combi too quick.


I'm no plumber though so see if others agree.

[Seth]

When we researched our we where told, a Monsoon pump depends on what boiler type?

If condensing with a hot water tank, you can have a pump.

If combi, the pump will suck the water through the combi too quick.


I'm no plumber though so see if others agree.

Got told the same here ... by a plumber!

[Andy H]

When we researched our we where told, a Monsoon pump depends on what boiler type?

If condensing with a hot water tank, you can have a pump.

If combi, the pump will suck the water through the combi too quick.


I'm no plumber though so see if others agree.

Exactly right.

You can use a pump (either a hidden Monsoon or a wall mounted one like the MIRA I posted the link to) if the water comes from a tank & cylinder).

If the water comes from the mains without going through a cistern you are not allowed to pump it (if you are sucking on the water main it might pull nasties into the water main somewhere else) also small combi boilers are fitted with flow limiters because they can only heat a small quantity of water to a useful temperature.

If you have a cheap combi boiler then I agree they are "stupid, useless things", the answer is to fit one big enough to produce hot water fast enough. Mine is a 37kW jobbie, easily powerful enough for a decent shower

There is another option. Fit a 'heat store' cylinder that has another coil in it for mains pressure water to feed the hot taps & shower http://www.gledhill.net/page/187/BoilerMate-BP.htm

Not knowing anything about the existing system I don't know if any of the suggestions so far are relevant

[Darth Loo-knee]

I was thinking of getting the whole system changed for a combi but a few people advised me to keep this one, still aren't sure why
Yes there is a black plastic tank in the airing cupboard thing about 5 ft off the floor,  then a cylinder tank sitting on the floor. ...
Was told  I could get a pump to boost the hot water pressure but don't actually kow where best to put it, under the bath someone told me.... is tgat a good place?

Cheers Guys x

[chrisgixer]

Depends what you want to pump v how much noise it creates and if it bothers you.

It could pump all the tanked water in the house if the pressure is low on other taps. In which case it needs to be sited nearer the water tanks, so in the airing cupboard. But then, if the airing cupboard is near a bedroom it could wake people if someone gets up for a pee in the night.

If its just the shower that needs help or noise is an issue, and the bathroom is further away from bedrooms then under the bath would be best to keep noise down. As its less usual to run a bath or shower at night and wake people up.

Noise depends in the quality, size, and position of the pump, and how well the pipes are installed to prevent resonance.

[Darth Loo-knee]

So does this pump just kick on when the hot water tap is turned on?

[05omegav6]

So does this pump just kick on when the hot water tap is turned on?

Yup