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[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Glad to hear he's on the mend 

This may sound a tad mercenary, but ensure you get a crime report number from the police, and FULL details of the owners insurance (if they have any). There are grounds here for a claim for loss of earnings, pain, suffering, and any further expenses that may be incurred both now and in the future. (medication/travel/clothing etc etc)

If the owners have Public Liability Insurance, which is usually part of pet insurance anyway, the claim is against that. If not and they have household insurance there may be a claim against that, failing that the claim is simply against the owners.

The fact that the dog belongs to a friend should not be considered at all.

Hard rules I know, but the sooner you get your head around this and start the ball rolling the better.... IMHO

Absolutely... Your boy must, must, must claim on the insurance/against the owners. The fact it's a friend makes it awkward but should also push for destruction of the animal For it to have made such a savage attack it may well do it again.

I know that it's harsh but if my soppy Lab were to bite savagely attack someone I would never trust her again and if she was given the chance to do it again then........

Agreed. A fit, strong 34 year old man may have survived (just) But a small girl or boy would stand  no chance. The dog is clearly not safe and should be destroyed.

Sorry to all you dog lovers...... but there is now a strong possibility that this  particular mutt will attack again.  

[Sir Tigger KC]

Yep! The dog must go!! If the owners have any sense of remorse, decency or common sense the deed should already have been done!! 

The insurance suggestion is also a good one!! 

[Taxi_Driver]

Glad to hear he's on the mend 

This may sound a tad mercenary, but ensure you get a crime report number from the police, and FULL details of the owners insurance (if they have any). There are grounds here for a claim for loss of earnings, pain, suffering, and any further expenses that may be incurred both now and in the future. (medication/travel/clothing etc etc)

If the owners have Public Liability Insurance, which is usually part of pet insurance anyway, the claim is against that. If not and they have household insurance there may be a claim against that, failing that the claim is simply against the owners.

The fact that the dog belongs to a friend should not be considered at all.

Hard rules I know, but the sooner you get your head around this and start the ball rolling the better.... IMHO

Absolutely... Your boy must, must, must claim on the insurance/against the owners. The fact it's a friend makes it awkward but should also push for destruction of the animal For it to have made such a savage attack it may well do it again.

I know that it's harsh but if my soppy Lab were to bite savagely attack someone I would never trust her again and if she was given the chance to do it again then........

The only thing a Lab might do is lick someone to death 
Mine wont even stand up for herself when another dog has a go at her....altho i know a choc lab dog that stands up for himself with other dogs but he's soft as putty towards humans.

Hope your son recovers quickly Phil   

[Taxi_Driver]

Glad to hear he's on the mend 

This may sound a tad mercenary, but ensure you get a crime report number from the police, and FULL details of the owners insurance (if they have any). There are grounds here for a claim for loss of earnings, pain, suffering, and any further expenses that may be incurred both now and in the future. (medication/travel/clothing etc etc)

If the owners have Public Liability Insurance, which is usually part of pet insurance anyway, the claim is against that. If not and they have household insurance there may be a claim against that, failing that the claim is simply against the owners.

The fact that the dog belongs to a friend should not be considered at all.

Hard rules I know, but the sooner you get your head around this and start the ball rolling the better.... IMHO

Absolutely... Your boy must, must, must claim on the insurance/against the owners. The fact it's a friend makes it awkward but should also push for destruction of the animal For it to have made such a savage attack it may well do it again.

I know that it's harsh but if my soppy Lab were to bite savagely attack someone I would never trust her again and if she was given the chance to do it again then........

Agreed. A fit, strong 34 year old man may have survived (just) But a small girl or boy would stand  no chance. The dog is clearly not safe and should be destroyed.

Sorry to all you dog lovers...... but there is now a strong possibility that this  particular mutt will attack again.

No need to be sorry.....i am a dog lover but i actually agree with you.....if a dog attacks a human, then it should be put down...IMO....IF it was unprovoked attack.....winding it up, then thats different...and what can happen.....again IMO

[MR MISTER]

Well...I'd like to say it's good news,Phil, but it isn't really is it? Sounds to me like months of rehabilitation and painful operations.
Great big dogs, of any breed, should not be allowed into a domestic situation. No one knows for sure what goes on inside a dogs head. I am sick to death of hearing about these incidents where the owner says that the dog has never shown any signs of aggression and that they can't understand why it happened.
It happened because you've got a huge, wild animal living in your house and, given the right circumstances, it will behave as such.
I am not going to apologise to anyone for my views. If I offend anybody....tough. Better to offend people than send them off in an ambulance or hearse.

[05omegav6]

Glad to hear it Phil could have been much much worse
 
Hard as it is to deal with at the time, I fully agree with LD. Indeed that is the reason we now only have one Tibetan Terrier and not two

[BazaJT]

As said by others the news,although pretty bad could have been a whole lot worse.It sounds like it will be a long[and possibly painful]road to recovery,but recover he will I'm sure.I've grown up with dogs of all sorts of breed all my life[at present I have a Sha Pei]but as others have said that one must be destroyed,if it hasn't been already.I did once read a report that said most attacks on people by dogs were committed by Labradors,but as at the time Labs were the most prolific breed this statistically could have been the cause of the findings.Anyway We here wish your lad all the best,if you're anything like me[my son is also 34]old as he is he is still my "little" boy!

[tigers_gonads]

Glad to hear he's on the mend 

This may sound a tad mercenary, but ensure you get a crime report number from the police, and FULL details of the owners insurance (if they have any). There are grounds here for a claim for loss of earnings, pain, suffering, and any further expenses that may be incurred both now and in the future. (medication/travel/clothing etc etc)

If the owners have Public Liability Insurance, which is usually part of pet insurance anyway, the claim is against that. If not and they have household insurance there may be a claim against that, failing that the claim is simply against the owners.

The fact that the dog belongs to a friend should not be considered at all.

Hard rules I know, but the sooner you get your head around this and start the ball rolling the better.... IMHO

Absolutely... Your boy must, must, must claim on the insurance/against the owners. The fact it's a friend makes it awkward but should also push for destruction of the animal For it to have made such a savage attack it may well do it again.

I know that it's harsh but if my soppy Lab were to bite savagely attack someone I would never trust her again and if she was given the chance to do it again then........

Agreed. A fit, strong 34 year old man may have survived (just) But a small girl or boy would stand  no chance. The dog is clearly not safe and should be destroyed.

Sorry to all you dog lovers...... but there is now a strong possibility that this  particular mutt will attack again.

No need to be sorry.....i am a dog lover but i actually agree with you.....if a dog attacks a human, then it should be put down...IMO....IF it was unprovoked attack.....winding it up, then thats different...and what can happen.....again IMO

Agree 100% with that.

Just one piece of info for oofer's about protecting yourself against a dog attack.

If a dog is on top of you and you feel your life is in danger, if you force his front legs apart far enough, it will split the dogs heart muscle and kill it instantly 

I love dogs more the most humans but sadly, I feel I should share this with you all 
I just hope nobody has to do it

[bigegg]

Agree 100% with that.

Just one piece of info for oofer's about protecting yourself against a dog attack.

If a dog is on top of you and you feel your life is in danger, if you force his front legs apart far enough, it will split the dogs heart muscle and kill it instantly 

I love dogs more the most humans but sadly, I feel I should share this with you all 
I just hope nobody has to do it

Hope the lad recovers OK, phil - lucky escape

I'm not going to add to the discussion about "dangerous" dogs. Suffice to say, any dog can be dangerous - some learn it, some are just born bad. Same as humans. Same conclusion, as well - Death.

I've only really joined this thread because of the above. You're not going to be able to force a big dogs legs apart far enough to harm it without exposing your face and throat. Not good.

If you find yourself on your back with a dog on top of you - try to control one front leg, and roll *towards* that leg, up and on the outside of it, whilst pulling the paw under you. That will break the leg 
This will protect your throat at the same time.

I studied a form of jiu jitsu which has defences against dog attacks - Akita were originally bred as Samurai war dogs.

[Varche]

About ten years ago Mr and Mrs V were outside a chip shop in Scarborough. A brute of a dog attacked my brother without warning and bit into his arm. He put his other arm over the dogs neck and bent its head back. It dropped to the ground almost instantly, alive but out for the count. Works for any but the strongest necked dogs(e.g. Rotweilers).

[cleggy]

I am very pleased that he is recovering.

I certainly agree with the majority about going for compensation, and hope that the dog is now peacefully at rest.

I have Labs, and think that you can tell the personality of an owner by the dog they keep, mine say hello and then go about their business if another dog wants to play then they will or ignore the other dog. If another dog shows aggression they lie down at my feet, and god help the owner of any unleashed dog that shows that sort of behaviour.

Keeping a particular type of dog be it a guard type, a field worker, assistance, or handbag dog require a certain skill and if you choose a strong security dog then be prepared to be the pack leader but ask yourself what can happen if you the pack leader is not around, who is the boss?

There are a lot of responsible owners of so called dangerous dogs but unfortunately a lot aren't so don't be surprised when other owners are wary and keep their distance or jump to conclusions. You don't hear of Labs, Spaniels, Poodles, Retrievers, Dalmations, Setters etc causing this type of problem.  

[chrisgixer]

Ah, didn't realise this was a personal attack, I'd been avoiding this thread up to now, sorry.

Sincerely hope the affects of this are as minimal as possible. But it sounds horrific and likely to be a long recovery by the sound of it.

Best wishes to all involved.

[tigers_gonads]

Agree 100% with that.

Just one piece of info for oofer's about protecting yourself against a dog attack.

If a dog is on top of you and you feel your life is in danger, if you force his front legs apart far enough, it will split the dogs heart muscle and kill it instantly 

I love dogs more the most humans but sadly, I feel I should share this with you all 
I just hope nobody has to do it

Hope the lad recovers OK, phil - lucky escape

I'm not going to add to the discussion about "dangerous" dogs. Suffice to say, any dog can be dangerous - some learn it, some are just born bad. Same as humans. Same conclusion, as well - Death.

I've only really joined this thread because of the above. You're not going to be able to force a big dogs legs apart far enough to harm it without exposing your face and throat. Not good.

If you find yourself on your back with a dog on top of you - try to control one front leg, and roll *towards* that leg, up and on the outside of it, whilst pulling the paw under you. That will break the leg 
This will protect your throat at the same time.

I studied a form of jiu jitsu which has defences against dog attacks - Akita were originally bred as Samurai war dogs.

That makes sence 

[aaronjb]

Sorry to hear about the attack - and like others I think you should be (well, he, once he's recovered enough) looking into some kind of compensation; tendon loss sounds worrying, certainly, and it all sounds like something that could haunt him in terms of lack of mobility/strength etc.

I hope he makes a full and speedy recovery!

[tunnie]

As a dog lover myself, it's hard to admit but in this type of situation the dog would have to go. What if this had been a small child? 

Phil, sounds like positive news although sounds like a long road ahead. All best from the T's