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Re: Sat Nav Aerial
« Reply #15 on: 23 October 2013, 23:02:43 »

No need to earth it to the metal body work then ? as original base is bolted down through roof skin and hefty metal nut forms eath.

Aerial base is in bits at the moment but can put back together and will see where i get pulling aerial cables through maybe tomorrow afternoon then

Thanks for advise guys..much appreciated :y
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Re: Sat Nav Aerial
« Reply #16 on: 25 October 2013, 10:10:19 »

Just to add, the GPS aerial will not function with anything metallic over the top of it, and requires fitting in a flat location that gives it a clear unobscured view of the sky. That said, if that position can be achieved by placing under a fabric rear shelf, or thin plastics under the top of the dash, then that is fine also. No need to have it visable as such

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Re: Sat Nav Aerial
« Reply #17 on: 25 October 2013, 12:15:58 »

Thanks guys. :y

Have decided to go down the magnetic mount route and fit it central on the rear parcel shelf under the fabric cover which I hope will provide a good view to the sky and be totally out of sight.

Only slight problem I am now finding is how to connect the MCX male connecter on the mag-mount satnav cable into either the existing roof plug.(which i dont think is an option) or into the plug connection in the drivers footwell which RobG kindly provided me with a great picture of.

Anybody know if such a female/male fly lead is available to link this up ?
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Re: Sat Nav Aerial
« Reply #18 on: 26 October 2013, 11:43:30 »

When I bought a DAB aerial from Panorama-Antennas I had to specify the connection I wanted on the radio end of the lead from the roof mounted aerial because they make they leads to order.

I guess that answers the question..........

PS they probably make a multifunction roof mount aerial that will save you pulling the parcel shelf out.
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Re: Sat Nav Aerial
« Reply #19 on: 26 October 2013, 12:02:54 »

Cheers for link Andy. :y

In truth I actually have a dab aerial and have removed the exiting GM roof areial completly and replaced with this into the exiting roof hole and all is fine on that score. ;)

What I need is a connection or flylead that allows me to connect into the existing GM sat nav cable in the drivers footwell from that to a MCX plug on a mini magmount which is now under the rear parcel shelf...trouble is I dont know what plug GM have used or what it is called to decribe to a supplier or even a google search.

Need the type of plug description  :y
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Re: Sat Nav Aerial
« Reply #20 on: 26 October 2013, 13:32:51 »

Cheers for link Andy. :y

In truth I actually have a dab aerial and have removed the exiting GM roof areial completly and replaced with this into the exiting roof hole and all is fine on that score. ;)

What I need is a connection or flylead that allows me to connect into the existing GM sat nav cable in the drivers footwell from that to a MCX plug on a mini magmount which is now under the rear parcel shelf...trouble is I dont know what plug GM have used or what it is called to decribe to a supplier or even a google search.

Need the type of plug description :y

Might be worth whipping the Foot Well panel off and have a look or take a Pic and see whats down there, if this is for your MPF then it should be as per Robs Pic.

Seem to remember you were talking about a newer 3.2 FL at some point, if its for the later then fairly sure they may be different, later ones had a all in one Blue or Grey Connector for the Comms down there.
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Re: Sat Nav Aerial
« Reply #21 on: 26 October 2013, 13:43:42 »

Need the type of plug description  :y
When I placed my order I did it by phone because I wasn't sure exactly which plug I had. The guy at the other end was both patient and helpful and was able to identify the plug with the barely adequate description I gave. I imagine that a phone call (followed by a photo if necessary) would have you sorted. :y
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Re: Sat Nav Aerial
« Reply #22 on: 26 October 2013, 14:30:02 »

Cheers for link Andy. :y

In truth I actually have a dab aerial and have removed the exiting GM roof areial completly and replaced with this into the exiting roof hole and all is fine on that score. ;)

What I need is a connection or flylead that allows me to connect into the existing GM sat nav cable in the drivers footwell from that to a MCX plug on a mini magmount which is now under the rear parcel shelf...trouble is I dont know what plug GM have used or what it is called to decribe to a supplier or even a google search.

Need the type of plug description :y

Might be worth whipping the Foot Well panel off and have a look or take a Pic and see whats down there, if this is for your MPF then it should be as per Robs Pic.

Seem to remember you were talking about a newer 3.2 FL at some point, if its for the later then fairly sure they may be different, later ones had a all in one Blue or Grey Connector for the Comms down there.

Correct.
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Re: Sat Nav Aerial
« Reply #23 on: 26 October 2013, 14:33:48 »

I think the micro connector is a 'Fakra' one IIRC
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Re: Sat Nav Aerial
« Reply #24 on: 26 October 2013, 16:05:21 »

I will give them a call on Monday as I only require a fly lead to connect MCX male to what ever lurks in the drivers footwell.

Hi Zirk...yes car is a late 2003 3.2 Elite so imagine its one of the last ones "out the pot" ;D 
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Re: Sat Nav Aerial
« Reply #25 on: 30 October 2013, 13:17:28 »

This sat nav aerial lead is starting to do my head in  >:(

As advised I have removed the kick trim in the drivers footwell expecting to find the connections as per RobG pictures.

Wrong  >:( what I have is a Blue plastic cable joiner block..into this runs 2 black leads which appear to be the same as those at the roof areial so expect 1 is GPS and other GSM although identical cables with no plugs.Coming out of the other end of this same Blue junction box is just 1 black cable with a thin red/black wire and they go up into the dash area.

The radio aerial which I assume is the grey wire also goes into this junction box and the same grey wire conmes out the other side.

So in effect they were joined but in the factory and there is no visible means of removing them.

I am now faced with several options:

1)..just give up retaining the original GPS the car was built with as I will have no suitable aerial
2)..remove the headunit and get a suitable connection from there into some form of internal mag mount GPS aerial
3)..cut which ever wire is the GPS aerial feed into the headunit at some point near the rear of the car and try and get a plug onto the wire allowing for it to connect into a mag mount GPS aerial on the rear metal parcel shelf.

Any advise on options 2 and 3  ::)...before I resort to option 1 :(
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Re: Sat Nav Aerial
« Reply #26 on: 30 October 2013, 14:40:24 »

Might be worth whipping the Foot Well panel off and have a look or take a Pic and see whats down there, if this is for your MPF then it should be as per Robs Pic.

Seem to remember you were talking about a newer 3.2 FL at some point, if its for the later then fairly sure they may be different, later ones had a all in one Blue or Grey Connector for the Comms down there.

Yep, later type, dont give up on it now, your almost there. So in effect you have 2 x male and females at one end and the same at the other end, so in theory should be able make up a lead to suit your needs somehow.

Are you passing me at any time in the near future Andrew?
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Re: Sat Nav Aerial
« Reply #27 on: 30 October 2013, 16:09:01 »

Hi Chris .

Car is still very much a "work in progress" and am slowly getting bits done as and when I have the time as only really want to start driving it when all is done that way it will start earning its keep.

Blue connecter in drivers footwell has no means of removing any of the cables so it appears it was some sort of joiner but put in during manufacture.

I currently have 2 black aerial wires at the point of the original roof aerial hole which are in 1 solid black plug type connecter.Unsure which is for GPS and GSM as they have no identification and the plug is the reverse of that which joins into the original aerial flylead.Had hoped I could get something to join into that but only peice I have is the bit from the aerial base which I assume could be butchered into a suitable connecter.

Dosent look too promising at the drivers kick panel area as no means of getting into that,again only by cutting bits open which might not be the right cable.Logic seemed to point to removing the Head unit and seeing what typ of plug that took ,then getting a small flylead made to plug into the Headunit and a male MCX type connection then I would be sorted.

Suppose the 2 questions are:
1).. what type of plug is required to go into the GPS part at the back of a NCDC2013.
2)..Can you get a female joining plug or flylead for connecting to a MCX male plug
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Re: Sat Nav Aerial
« Reply #28 on: 30 October 2013, 18:14:00 »

Best advice I can give is not to intercept the connections at the HU unless you really have too. The cable and plugs can be removed from the blue outer by depressing the little tab with a small tool (A dart will do!).
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Re: Sat Nav Aerial
« Reply #29 on: 30 October 2013, 18:41:23 »

Well I think I may have come up with a plan but just need to confirm with you guys. :y

I have cut the 2 cables from the original roof aerial fitting as it was surplus to my needs.I now have the original black plastic plug which will connect into the aerial lead of the car so in effect have 2 bare aerial wire ends,1 must be GPS the other GSM.

Searching internet it seems you can buy a female mcx plug so can I just fit that onto the exposed aerial cable of the lead that is the GPS one and then just plug in any mcx male lead from mag mount ?..Can it be this simple really  ;)
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