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[chrisgixer]

My understanding of chain drive is its a sealed for life unit without a specified service interval. however thats assuming its had a good life regarding oil changes. not sure where youd stand if this was neglected.

I think that's the point Al is making really. 20k service intervals for oil is stretching it, to say the least. I'm sure if an owner adopted a more sensible oil change interval of every 5 or 10k, they'd be greatly decreasing the chances of cam chain issues.

[cem_devecioglu]

Webby, if you dont want any headaches for you and them, go for honda,mazda models.. 

[Kevin Wood]

My understanding of chain drive is its a sealed for life unit without a specified service interval. however thats assuming its had a good life regarding oil changes. not sure where youd stand if this was neglected.

I think that's the point Al is making really. 20k service intervals for oil is stretching it, to say the least. I'm sure if an owner adopted a more sensible oil change interval of every 5 or 10k, they'd be greatly decreasing the chances of cam chain issues.

Depends on how much damage has been done beforehand, though. They are not getting any newer, so guessing mileages are getting high. Can't see a first owner ever lifting the bonnet, so any will at best have FSH, which means a change every 20k if the stealers could be bothered.

[05omegav6]

Woo. Swirl flaps.

No instances of those failing? Like in the BMW's ? (I'm sure we would've heard if there was an issue)

You say that, but are the cars common enough for issues to be raised, or do people just dump them for summat else

[Marks DTM Calib]

Two observations.

1) Chains and guides do wear, stretch and fail, unles VAG have some magic new space material it can and will eventualy happen.

2) DPF......if short journeys, the diesel is a no no

[chrisgixer]

Webby, if you dont want any headaches for you and them, go for honda,mazda models.. 

No experience with Honda, but Mazda are indeed quite reliable. BUT, if they do fail, parts are massively expensive. £390 for a maf for an example of first hand experience.


As an Omege replacement I have two options. Phaeton or vxr8.

I still have sporting requirements from my cars though, so the vxr8 is favourite. But I would be very happy with a Phaeton. Very happy indeed.

[05omegav6]

As an Omege replacement Ihave two options. Phaeton or vxr8.

Istill have sporting requirements from my cars though, so the vxr8 is favourite. But I would be very happy with a Phaeton. Very happy indeed.

Inspite of the fuel requirements, the VXR8 is the way forward, for reasons mentioned in tother thread

Out of those two, it will almost certainly have long term reliability, and cost you less in the long run

[Webby the Bear]

VXR8 is a great drifting car..... have been in one whilst being drifted.  (on my Ferrari experience day before you get concerned )

So one thing to note off the bat is that it needs to have evidence of oil changes.

Am i to trust that the waterpump is not driven by the chain? And if the chain is at the back of the block i'm thinking the aux belt will still be at the front?

Does anyone know about the turbos on VWs? i presume they're reliable?

may also contact VW to see what they'd charge for certain things

[pscocoa]

A few mentioned the oil change - it is not quite as simple as 20k intervals.

As said I use mine for long journeys now and then. This usage reduces oil qulaity and so my servicing is set to 10,000 miles or 1 year as opposed to long life.

There is in any case an oil quality sensor which will trigger if the usage pattern is not compatible with the service mode. If car used almost daily for good runs getting fully warm then long life should be ok.

So mine has been serviced at 10000 mile intervals (incl oil and filter change).

I posted an old V6 diesel spec - they have upgraded the engines.

If Webby's parents are going for a 2009 I would try and and see if you can get a 2010 Facelift model - also known as GP3. Mine is GP2, there was a facelift in 2007 known as GP1 and the rest (pre 2007) known as GP0. At least that is how I think it works.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

I'm tempted by a Honda Leg-end when the Omega finally goes tit's up.

Bit dull though.

[Webby the Bear]

Hondas are a bit dull. imo. but they are bullet proof.

i love the phaeton personally cos its massive (like big cars and feel safe), it has ALL the toys and is relatively dirt cheap compared to their original purchase prices.

just got a bit of research to do for them but this has been a help especially with PSC providing details of an owners forum

regarding them being slow..... that bothers me/my folks not in the slightest. quiet luxury is the order of the day 

[Sir Tigger KC]

I'm tempted by a Honda Leg-end when the Omega finally goes tit's up.

Bit dull though.

I've been mulling over a Suburu Legacy..... 

[chrisgixer]

As an Omege replacement Ihave two options. Phaeton or vxr8.

Istill have sporting requirements from my cars though, so the vxr8 is favourite. But I would be very happy with a Phaeton. Very happy indeed.

Inspite of the fuel requirements, the VXR8 is the way forward, for reasons mentioned in tother thread

Out of those two, it will almost certainly have long term reliability, and cost you less in the long run

For us maybe. But I can't see Webbys folks choosing one over a Phaeton. Can you?

[Webby the Bear]

As an Omege replacement Ihave two options. Phaeton or vxr8.

Istill have sporting requirements from my cars though, so the vxr8 is favourite. But I would be very happy with a Phaeton. Very happy indeed.

Inspite of the fuel requirements, the VXR8 is the way forward, for reasons mentioned in tother thread

Out of those two, it will almost certainly have long term reliability, and cost you less in the long run

For us maybe. But I can't see Webbys folks choosing one over a Phaeton. Can you?

  As mentioned above... quiet luxury. And if i'm honest, i'd have a phaeton over the VXR8 any day..... i'm getting older too and having a car that bellows everytime you get in would annoy me. (i know that sounds old but i dont care lol)

[chrisgixer]

As an Omege replacement Ihave two options. Phaeton or vxr8.

Istill have sporting requirements from my cars though, so the vxr8 is favourite. But I would be very happy with a Phaeton. Very happy indeed.

Inspite of the fuel requirements, the VXR8 is the way forward, for reasons mentioned in tother thread

Out of those two, it will almost certainly have long term reliability, and cost you less in the long run

For us maybe. But I can't see Webbys folks choosing one over a Phaeton. Can you?

  As mentioned above... quiet luxury. And if i'm honest, i'd have a phaeton over the VXR8 any day..... i'm getting older too and having a car that bellows everytime you get in would annoy me. (i know that sounds old but i dont care lol)

Ooh that's a bit unfair on the vxr8, but I tend to agree. I'm starting to smell of wee a bit too Webster.

There's a lot of annoyances in life. Sitting in a Phaeton would do a good job of blocking out most of them.