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[Lizzie_Zoom]

As I have stated before, the well educated young of the ex-USSR countries are looking at the West and want to be fully part of Europe.  Their parents and grandparents may still have leanings towards the regimented control of the Soviet years, but it is not for the young.

These youngsters are the new affluent middle-classes of the Ukraine, Slovakia, Romania, Georgia, etc, etc, and, as in the history of many European countries, they will decide the future path of their countries.

Russia itself will learn to understand that in due course.

[MR MISTER]

As I have stated before, the well educated young of the ex-USSR countries are looking at the West and want to be fully part of Europe.  Their parents and grandparents may still have leanings towards the regimented control of the Soviet years, but it is not for the young.

These youngsters are the new affluent middle-classes of the Ukraine, Slovakia, Romania, Georgia, etc, etc, and, as in the history of many European countries, they will decide the future path of their countries.

Russia itself will learn to understand that in due course.

Or invade, as it did in Georgia, while the EU/UN argue about whato do.

[Lizzie_Zoom]

As I have stated before, the well educated young of the ex-USSR countries are looking at the West and want to be fully part of Europe.  Their parents and grandparents may still have leanings towards the regimented control of the Soviet years, but it is not for the young.

These youngsters are the new affluent middle-classes of the Ukraine, Slovakia, Romania, Georgia, etc, etc, and, as in the history of many European countries, they will decide the future path of their countries.

Russia itself will learn to understand that in due course.

Or invade, as it did in Georgia, while the EU/UN argue about whato do.

  Thank God we still have the bomb................or rather nuclear intercontinental ballistic missile, and the submarines to launch them!  We cannot dare to trust the Russians yet; they still are not a democracy

[cem_devecioglu]

As I have stated before, the well educated young of the ex-USSR countries are looking at the West and want to be fully part of Europe.  Their parents and grandparents may still have leanings towards the regimented control of the Soviet years, but it is not for the young.

These youngsters are the new affluent middle-classes of the Ukraine, Slovakia, Romania, Georgia, etc, etc, and, as in the history of many European countries, they will decide the future path of their countries.

Russia itself will learn to understand that in due course.

Or invade, as it did in Georgia, while the EU/UN argue about whato do.

Russians are practical.. dont waste time

[Rods2]

The Ukrainian nation since the 1916 revolution have wanted one simple thing, which they had for a short period between 1917 and 1919 to be an independent country who decide their own destiny.

It is unlikely, Russia will directly intervene where they have a powerful economic lever they can pull on to keep the pro-Russian president inline, the only way that would change would be if a Ukrainian government attempted to closed their Black Sea base which is very likely where the current Government negotiated a new long term agreement with them recently. All countries will do what they need to do to preserve their military strategic interests.

West Ukraine was part of the Polish empire for many years and what the people in west-Ukraine want is a modern state in Western Europe. They have had enough of the corrupt post-Soviet state and a very slow reform rate and want a generation of politicians who will achieve that. What the people of post-Soviet countries want most of all is economic and political freedom, with a few exceptions of the older generation who preferred the regimented order of the old system. They have lived under the total failure and straight jacket of a feudal communist system of great privilege for the few and abject poverty with no freedom of expression for the many and have seen what liberal capitalism has done to lift their countries since 1991 so the average person is much wealthier and comfortable than before, by being able to buy the necessities and the odd luxury, which were not available under communism, but also a much more important freedom, freedom of expression. By looking west they can see that much more needs to be done, to rid the country of the last vestiges of the old corrupt communist system and to become a much more modern richer state in freedom and wealth for the average citizen.

They recognise the country is at a crossroads and know which road they want to take, so I hope it works out for them.

The removal of statues of Lenin has been happening all over the Ukraine since 1991. When I first started visiting Talne in the Ukraine, I got my future wife to take some pictures of me underneath Lenin's statue in their central square, that is no longer possible as the statue has been removed. Why preserve statues of the architect of a failed and discredited system when you are trying to write the next chapter in your country's history?

[Rods2]

Rods, we all know that with some money you can hire rebels everywhere.. and media will pump it like a big baloon.. but thats not the truth..

what happened in Syria ? same story tried with no result..

many of soviet industry including power stations are in Ukraine region.. do you really think Russia will permit this ?


west , show a carrot for poor Ukrainians and they follow with the hope of better money ..  as I said Putin will soon sort it out

They are not being paid to do this they are expressing themselves from the heart, they want a better more just country for themselves and their families. Britain did the same in the 18th and 19th centuries to change their feudal system where laws were there to aid the vested interests and to get on you needed the patronage of one or more of the landed gentry. This changed, along with the development of the world's first industrial revolution by getting rid of the vested interests and restrictive labour practices into our modern democracy and Ukrainians have the same instincts and want the same. This was a hard fought battle in a mainly peaceful way, by the many against the powerful few in the UK. The people won and that is why we are a rich, free, largely democratic country, not perfect by any means, but better than most.