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[TheBoy]

How many miiles had it done, and what engine did it have (originally, if you messed around with it)?

164,000

2.6 V6 Y26SE with 3.0 cams, inlet divider, and ported inlet ports to match divider.

OK, thats answered my query, I'll have to look elsewhere.

Thanks anyway

I thought you knew!

I did mine not long after Mark did MikeDundees

So what are you after then?

brakes

Well you can fit FL to PFL and I do have newish vented rear discs stil on the pads I fitted them with (and new shoes), and the rear calipers are OK, fronts, well who doesn't replace their discs every few pads as a matter of course.

I suppose it would be fitting for my old car to keep a few loved Omegas on the road, better than crushing a whole car.

MikeDundee's mechanic thought that as well, with predictable results 

[Martin_1962]

How many miiles had it done, and what engine did it have (originally, if you messed around with it)?

164,000

2.6 V6 Y26SE with 3.0 cams, inlet divider, and ported inlet ports to match divider.

OK, thats answered my query, I'll have to look elsewhere.

Thanks anyway

I thought you knew!

I did mine not long after Mark did MikeDundees

So what are you after then?

brakes

Well you can fit FL to PFL and I do have newish vented rear discs stil on the pads I fitted them with (and new shoes), and the rear calipers are OK, fronts, well who doesn't replace their discs every few pads as a matter of course.

I suppose it would be fitting for my old car to keep a few loved Omegas on the road, better than crushing a whole car.

MikeDundee's mechanic thought that as well, with predictable results 

But didn't he have solid discs inside of vented calipers?

[05omegav6]

I think the incident in question involved fitting solid discs to vented calipers

If I have read your last correctly, the car you are breaking has the following fitted...

Vented rear discs.
Wider calipers for said vented discs
Pads
Shoes

If all are refitted together exactly as they come off your car, then there should be no cause for concern provided of course that the discs and pads are only lightly and evenly worn...

A tidy brake upgrade for anyone with solid rear discs, TB included

[Martin_1962]

I think the incident in question involved fitting solid discs to vented calipers

If I have read your last correctly, the car you are breaking has the following fitted...

Vented rear discs.
Wider calipers for said vented discs
Pads
Shoes

If all are refitted together exactly as they come off your car, then there should be no cause for concern provided of course that the discs and pads are only lightly and evenly worn...

A tidy brake upgrade for anyone with solid rear discs, TB included

New pads would be a good idea while in bits but they are the ones I fitted with the discs in 2012

[tigers_gonads]

I think the incident in question involved fitting solid discs to vented calipers

If I have read your last correctly, the car you are breaking has the following fitted...

Vented rear discs.
Wider calipers for said vented discs
Pads
Shoes

If all are refitted together exactly as they come off your car, then there should be no cause for concern provided of course that the discs and pads are only lightly and evenly worn...

A tidy brake upgrade for anyone with solid rear discs, TB included

New pads would be a good idea while in bits but they are the ones I fitted with the discs in 2012

Apologies for jumping in here
Are we saying that IF you have vented discs at the rear, you can fit front callipers to that hub / disc as a upgrade ?

[Kevin Wood]

Wasn't there a change in rear caliper piston diameter somewhere around the MFL->FL transition?

Be worth checking that first, as it could mess up the brake balance.

[tigers_gonads]

Wasn't there a change in rear caliper piston diameter somewhere around the MFL->FL transition?

Be worth checking that first, as it could mess up the brake balance.

Just a mad / no cost idea due the extra weight behind the rear axel of the donut tank and the amount of weight I carry when if I get any work 
I've still got the old v6 estate on the side of the house so I could have pinched the bits of that 

Can the rear brake balance be adjusted manually or is that all down to the Abs pump programming ?

[05omegav6]

What I was getting at was because Martins car had vented REAR discs with the wider calipers, both could be fitted to a car that has solid REAR discs without issue. Should also be stamped '42' on the outside face of the caliper.

Potentially, the front caliper will bolt onto the rear hub... BUT, rear discs are 10mm smaller in diameter, and vented discs are 20 mm thick at the rear/24 mm at the front. Front caliper piston area is about twice the size of the rear ones, so as Kevin has pointed out, fitting front calipers to the rear WITHOUT uprating the front brakes will almost certainly cause a problem. Also it is not known if the position of the front caliper will foul the disc when bolted to the rear hub

[05omegav6]

What I was getting at was because Martins car had vented REAR discs with the wider calipers, both could be fitted to a car that has solid REAR discs without issue. THIS IS ONLY AS A COMPLETE UPGRADE. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD THE WIDER CALIPERS BE FITTED WITH SOLID DISCS

Should also be stamped '42' on the outside face of the caliper.

Potentially, the front caliper will bolt onto the rear hub... BUT, rear discs are 10mm smaller in diameter, and vented discs are 20 mm thick at the rear/24 mm at the front. Front caliper piston area is about twice the size of the rear ones, so as Kevin has pointed out, fitting front calipers to the rear WITHOUT uprating the front brakes will almost certainly cause a problem. Also it is not known if the position of the front caliper will foul the disc when bolted to the rear hub

Edited rather obviously...

[tigers_gonads]

What I was getting at was because Martins car had vented REAR discs with the wider calipers, both could be fitted to a car that has solid REAR discs without issue. THIS IS ONLY AS A COMPLETE UPGRADE. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD THE WIDER CALIPERS BE FITTED WITH SOLID DISCS

Should also be stamped '42' on the outside face of the caliper.

Potentially, the front caliper will bolt onto the rear hub... BUT, rear discs are 10mm smaller in diameter, and vented discs are 20 mm thick at the rear/24 mm at the front. Front caliper piston area is about twice the size of the rear ones, so as Kevin has pointed out, fitting front calipers to the rear WITHOUT uprating the front brakes will almost certainly cause a problem. Also it is not known if the position of the front caliper will foul the disc when bolted to the rear hub

Edited rather obviously...

Oh well, another mad idea out of the window 
I'll just have to learn to drive slower 

[05omegav6]

What I was getting at was because Martins car had vented REAR discs with the wider calipers, both could be fitted to a car that has solid REAR discs without issue. THIS IS ONLY AS A COMPLETE UPGRADE. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD THE WIDER CALIPERS BE FITTED WITH SOLID DISCS

Should also be stamped '42' on the outside face of the caliper.

Potentially, the front caliper will bolt onto the rear hub... BUT, rear discs are 10mm smaller in diameter, and vented discs are 20 mm thick at the rear/24 mm at the front. Front caliper piston area is about twice the size of the rear ones, so as Kevin has pointed out, fitting front calipers to the rear WITHOUT uprating the front brakes will almost certainly cause a problem. Also it is not known if the position of the front caliper will foul the disc when bolted to the rear hub

Edited rather obviously...

Oh well, another mad idea out of the window 
I'll just have to learn to drive slower 

Thee and me both
If you've the parts to try it, hypothetically speaking of course, and only to establish that they physically fit... then please add your findings to the Brake Upgrades thread in Car Chat, as I was thinking along similar lines for the rear once the fronts have bigger discs/calipers fitted

[twiglet]

What I was getting at was because Martins car had vented REAR discs with the wider calipers, both could be fitted to a car that has solid REAR discs without issue. THIS IS ONLY AS A COMPLETE UPGRADE. UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES SHOULD THE WIDER CALIPERS BE FITTED WITH SOLID DISCS

Should also be stamped '42' on the outside face of the caliper.

Potentially, the front caliper will bolt onto the rear hub... BUT, rear discs are 10mm smaller in diameter, and vented discs are 20 mm thick at the rear/24 mm at the front. Front caliper piston area is about twice the size of the rear ones, so as Kevin has pointed out, fitting front calipers to the rear WITHOUT uprating the front brakes will almost certainly cause a problem. Also it is not known if the position of the front caliper will foul the disc when bolted to the rear hub

Edited rather obviously...

Oh well, another mad idea out of the window 
I'll just have to learn to drive slower 

Thee and me both
If you've the parts to try it, hypothetically speaking of course, and only to establish that they physically fit... then please add your findings to the Brake Upgrades thread in Car Chat, as I was thinking along similar lines for the rear once the fronts have bigger discs/calipers fitted

And I have a box of front calipers in the shed! 

[RobG]

And I have a box of front calipers in the shed!

TB was enquiring about front calipers James

[Martin_1962]

If you have changed your mind please let me know.

Wheels and tyres are currently available.

[twiglet]

And I have a box of front calipers in the shed!

TB was enquiring about front calipers James

I also mentioned to TB that I had some VGC low mileage solid rear calipers in a recent post, but he never got back to me.