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Biker 1

4 (8%)

Biker 2

26 (52%)

Police officer

14 (28%)

Stemo - its always his fault

6 (12%)

Total Members Voted: 28

Voting closed: 23 January 2014, 15:10:01

[cam2502]

The 1st biker only stopped where he did because the officer was standing in the middle of the road. Surely the copper would've been safer (to all concerned) to stay in the lay by and flag him in.
But the 2nd biker has to be at fault because he was clearly going too fast and couldn't stop in time.

[cleggy]

The second biker, he was travelling too close to the one in front to stop safely for whatever reason.

Copper, conditions or speed have now't to with it

[omega3000]

Plod was wrong to step out like that so fast and in fog  , ultimately plod caused the accident but biker 2 was travelling too fast and grabbed a handful of front brake 
Bikes should be fitted with fog lights , always said that 

[aaronjb]

Biker number 2 knows who he blames.. it looks like he aims for the copper right before he hits the other bike :lol:

Chris - could also be lots of Wales with fences like that and lots of fog..

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Plod's fault.

Without his foolish intervention there wouldn't have been an accident.

[Allenm]

The plod is clearly the cause of the crash, however the question was who is in the wrong...

Clearly all 3 are in the wrong:

Plod - being patently bloody stupid both in the manner, location and conditions for the stop
Bikes 1 & 2 - speeding and also driving without regard for the conditions.

[b4ndit]

Biker two, traveling to fast to be able to stop

[henryd]

Its interesting for me, a key reason to post this was to see where we were as a collective with respect to blame.

What if it was not a copper but a lorry pulling out a layby or a large combine going in the opposite direction taking up most of the road.

My thoughts as well

[Taxi_Driver]

I've voted biker2 , because, imo, if you cannot stop in time then you are travelling too fast/close to the vehicle in front or simply not paying attention to whats going on in the road ahead of you.

I think a ticket of careless driving would be in order for biker 2

[chrisgixer]

By this reckoning though, all traffic should slow down for every pedestrian on the side of the road, just in case they decide to jump out into your path on some suicide mission or whatever.
Whilst we do that in residential areas, where kids might jump out between parked cars etc, it's not reasonable to do the same in a a national speed limit(assuming that's a national speed limit road of course, I think it probably is)

Is it reasonable for a cooper or anyone else, to stand or jump into the middle of a road covered by a national speed limit?

I'd say no. A daft hat, a badge, and a Wally bib counts for nothing here IMO.

A driver pulling out of a side street, a combine coming the other way taking both lanes, matters not. They would be at fault.

Bikers 1 gets speeding
Biker 2 gets same plus careless (why didn't he just overtake then pull over?)
As they would have anyway.

As far as the accident goes...Plod gets sack for Being a total cock and causing an accident.(but I bet that doesn't happen)

[Vamps]

Biker 2 for not being able to stop in time; the Police officer should have directed bike 1 into the layby for a safe stop, but that is a separate argument imho.

In an insurance case it is always the one who runs into the back's fault regardless of why the front vehicle stopped.

Just my two penneth...........

[Sir Tigger KC]

Biker 2 obviously wasn't paying attention as Biker 1 manged to stop. 

The policeman could have been a sheep so his actions are irrelevant in my view and so my vote is Biker 2. 

[cem_devecioglu]

 foggy weather and a bend..  and road likely to be half wet..  cop could find a better place and time.. more serious accidents could easily happen..


also second bike is fast and very late to react in time..

[swordfish]

ALL, the bikers were going to fast ,,,
the officer would not need to step out , if they were not driving like tw### in such bad driving conditions   driving to close together and not looking were they were going and also judging distance incorrectly

[Crazycarzowner]

Well all I can say is that that bobby must be quick-draw-mcgraw!!! How he can look down the sight & focus the red dot then 'ping' that bike so quickly from that distance  I use similar radar guns and it is extremely hard to aim and catch a motorbike doing 40-50mph never mind the speed them two were doing!!! When he looked like he pinged the first one it also looked like he was less than the 37m that you can actually fire the lazer at too!