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Re: Someone has Re-Designed the Side of my Elite Estate - Gutted.
« Reply #45 on: 19 August 2014, 12:51:52 »

Changing the damaged doors and wing is no different to someone changing them because they're rusty imho. No reason why, if the repair is half decent that the value should change at all... especially if not done through insurers :-\
Agreed Al, if I do the work myself (which I dont have the facilities to do) or source parts, do some myself then have it finished in a Shop.

Unfortunately, Ive had a local quote for both options, first option was a non starter, second was doable, me finding replacement Door and sourcing a rear new panel (as we discussed) and letting the Body Shop to finish off. Biggest cost being the Panel and Man Hours for the Shop to repair and then blowing the side of the car to match the paint job.

The second option is doable if I was to decide to keep and drive the car myself, but means I'd be driving around in a car I paid more for than what its worth.
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« Reply #46 on: 19 August 2014, 12:54:00 »

Do you have trailer facilities?

Basically if you can drive the car here, I can strip the rear wing for a modest fee, then you can drag it to your friendly body shop to get the welding done... (might have a plan for the welding :-\)

Unfortunately the chap who did mine no longer does bodywork as a life time of it has killed his lungs :'(

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Re: Someone has Re-Designed the Side of my Elite Estate - Gutted.
« Reply #47 on: 19 August 2014, 12:57:56 »

Do you have trailer facilities?
No, well not without hiring one.
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« Reply #48 on: 19 August 2014, 13:02:16 »

Do you have trailer facilities?
No, well not without hiring one.
See my last edit... if the wing can be removed and replaced here, then your looking at driving the car both ways :y
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« Reply #49 on: 19 August 2014, 13:06:19 »

Changing the damaged doors and wing is no different to someone changing them because they're rusty imho. No reason why, if the repair is half decent that the value should change at all... especially if not done through insurers :-\
Agreed Al, if I do the work myself (which I dont have the facilities to do) or source parts, do some myself then have it finished in a Shop.

Unfortunately, Ive had a local quote for both options, first option was a non starter, second was doable, me finding replacement Door and sourcing a rear new panel (as we discussed) and letting the Body Shop to finish off. Biggest cost being the Panel and Man Hours for the Shop to repair and then blowing the side of the car to match the paint job.

The second option is doable if I was to decide to keep and drive the car myself, but means I'd be driving around in a car I paid more for than what its worth.


a 100% match for color is very hard (requires many trials painted on a test card with clear coat) but blending the color coat (with a close color match) on the front door half will be practical and very hard to see even for a trained eye..


if I were you I would repair it.. because its a slow speed damage.. I dont think there is problem on the main chasis rails..


edit : I re-check the car picture and front left wing and front door color is already different.. so its better you paint the whole side :y
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« Reply #50 on: 19 August 2014, 13:08:09 »

Do you have trailer facilities?
No, well not without hiring one.
See my last edit... if the wing can be removed and replaced here, then your looking at driving the car both ways :y
Ok Al, appreciate that, could be an option, I'll give you a shout later and we can crunch some numbers.  ;)
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« Reply #51 on: 19 August 2014, 13:24:44 »

Changing the damaged doors and wing is no different to someone changing them because they're rusty imho. No reason why, if the repair is half decent that the value should change at all... especially if not done through insurers :-\
Agreed Al, if I do the work myself (which I dont have the facilities to do) or source parts, do some myself then have it finished in a Shop.

Unfortunately, Ive had a local quote for both options, first option was a non starter, second was doable, me finding replacement Door and sourcing a rear new panel (as we discussed) and letting the Body Shop to finish off. Biggest cost being the Panel and Man Hours for the Shop to repair and then blowing the side of the car to match the paint job.

The second option is doable if I was to decide to keep and drive the car myself, but means I'd be driving around in a car I paid more for than what its worth.


a 100% match for color is very hard (requires many trials painted on a test card with clear coat) but blending the color coat (with a close color match) on the front door half will be practical and very hard to see even for a trained eye..


if I were you I would repair it.. because its a slow speed damage.. I dont think there is problem on the main chasis rails..


edit : I re-check the car picture and front left wing and front door color is already different.. so its better you paint the whole side :y

The car is on its original Panels and Paint, so will look again as to different shades  :-\, but yes, You, Me and the Body Shop Man are in agreement probably easier to blow the whole side in while the Guns out, just means a tad more expensive and prep work but it gets done properly.

Question for me, is do I throw in the towel now and cut my losses, the car was a project, a new home for someone, vs whats it worth in bits? and get some money back on her.  :-\
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Re: Someone has Re-Designed the Side of my Elite Estate - Gutted.
« Reply #52 on: 19 August 2014, 13:27:11 »

Plan F, anyone fancy an Omega Van project.  :-X
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« Reply #53 on: 19 August 2014, 13:37:32 »

Plan F, anyone fancy an Omega Van project.  :-X
::)

For reference...

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Seitenwand-links-caravan-Opel-Omega-B-181241-NEU-ORIGINAL-/331080813523?pt=DE_Autoteile&hash=item4d15f44bd3

Only one listed in Europe :y

Obviously Star silver doors are readily available at 25p each :D
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« Reply #54 on: 19 August 2014, 13:43:04 »

I should perhaps add that I have the Thatcham body repair manual for the Omega...
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« Reply #55 on: 19 August 2014, 13:45:34 »

Plan F, anyone fancy an Omega Van project.  :-X
::)

For reference...

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Seitenwand-links-caravan-Opel-Omega-B-181241-NEU-ORIGINAL-/331080813523?pt=DE_Autoteile&hash=item4d15f44bd3

Only one listed in Europe :y

Obviously Star silver doors are readily available at 25p each :D
Hmm.....

Doors, yea I know, I chucked 6 in the skip about 3 months ago because no one wanted them.  ::)
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Re: Someone has Re-Designed the Side of my Elite Estate - Gutted.
« Reply #56 on: 19 August 2014, 13:46:12 »

Plan F, anyone fancy an Omega Van project.  :-X

How about an Omega Flatbed?  ;)  :y
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« Reply #57 on: 19 August 2014, 13:49:52 »

Thing is Chris,do you feel up to taking it on, as it might end up you chasing your tail a bit, and have you got the time/money etc to commit to what really is a bit of a project now. For me I would take Al up on his offer and would enjoy the logistical side of getting the parts together and spending the time trying to make it happen.IMHO if the car was up for sale and IF I hadn't spent a shed load of money on the cars that I already have this year, then for me it would be a no brainer :-\ PPS don't anyone tell SWMBO about this post :-X
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« Reply #58 on: 22 August 2014, 16:01:48 »

Thing is Chris,do you feel up to taking it on, as it might end up you chasing your tail a bit, and have you got the time/money etc to commit to what really is a bit of a project now. For me I would take Al up on his offer and would enjoy the logistical side of getting the parts together and spending the time trying to make it happen.IMHO if the car was up for sale and IF I hadn't spent a shed load of money on the cars that I already have this year, then for me it would be a no brainer :-\ PPS don't anyone tell SWMBO about this post :-X
As much as I would like to take up Al's kind offer, doing the numbers its just not viable Im afraid Ken, in the real world, even buying Doors, Rear Panel myself, then off to the Body Shop basically means not much change out of a grand.  :(
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« Reply #59 on: 22 August 2014, 16:03:29 »

Got to ask. Will you be breaking it,
Looking that way, spanner time soon.
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