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chrisgixer

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Re: Possible cheap 17" tyres deal?
« Reply #30 on: 27 September 2014, 10:25:28 »

And if your tests imply Toyo proxy are better than sc3 or Dunlop rt regarding grip purely because they aren't present in the test then that is NO advert for tyre tests or cem's logic.


there is no "my logic" .. its a test.. when you enter a shop and dont find those tyres , can you buy them ?

https://www.google.co.uk/#tbm=shop&q=235+45+r17+sport+contact+3+
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Re: Possible cheap 17" tyres deal?
« Reply #31 on: 27 September 2014, 10:29:11 »

Ps. Go for a higher load. 97 and mercedes fitment. Mo.

Not as common as they where but you can still get them. I use Micheldever personally.
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Re: Possible cheap 17" tyres deal?
« Reply #32 on: 27 September 2014, 10:43:14 »

Interesting isn't it. Person A has tyre Z, and considers it the best ever fitted on the car, there for, it must be the best tyre in the world and there can't be anything else worth considering.

Right? :) Is that really what we're saying? :)

Of course it depends on the individuals needs. And experience.


A good tyre means many things to many differant people. If I recommended sc3 over f1 you'd complain of noise. If I recommended rt over sc3 you'd complain of wear. If we then went back to f1 you'd say where's the grip gone?

But as the advert mentions specifically to grip levels. I can definately tell you there are better available. As cem says you mostly know those tyres by now. Dunlop rt and ac3 mo. BOTH of these have more grip.

... However they do have other downside, relatively speaking.

Anyway. Point is, they can't be maximum grip tyres if there's tyres with more grip available. Good tyres all things considered but there's better available and the ad is slightly misleading.

You can do a hell of a lot worse than f1's too of course. :)
I think it probably needs to be stated that if you overdrive a reasonably good tyre, the wear is horrific. This is what I've found with SC5 (which actually wasn't that grippy at all) and F1s.

An Autogrip will never wear out. You will die first, in a hedge, alone, in the rain.
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Re: Possible cheap 17" tyres deal?
« Reply #33 on: 27 September 2014, 10:48:18 »

Only for you J. ;D

EVERYONE else knows to drive within the performance window of the tyres they have fitted ;D

....although, define over driven...? :-\
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Re: Possible cheap 17" tyres deal?
« Reply #34 on: 27 September 2014, 11:13:12 »

Only for you J. ;D

EVERYONE else knows to drive within the performance window of the tyres they have fitted ;D

....although, define over driven...? :-\


In TB's case......suicidal. :)
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« Reply #35 on: 27 September 2014, 13:50:03 »

Only for you J. ;D

EVERYONE else knows to drive within the performance window of the tyres they have fitted ;D

....although, define over driven...? :-\
Third set of rears (in 16500 miles) going on the E Class on Monday :-X
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Re: Possible cheap 17" tyres deal?
« Reply #36 on: 27 September 2014, 20:38:13 »

Only for you J. ;D

EVERYONE else knows to drive within the performance window of the tyres they have fitted ;D

....although, define over driven...? :-\
My definition is when the tyre starts moving, ie driving beyond the limits of it.
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Re: Possible cheap 17" tyres deal?
« Reply #37 on: 27 September 2014, 20:47:51 »

Only for you J. ;D

EVERYONE else knows to drive within the performance window of the tyres they have fitted ;D

....although, define over driven...? :-\
My definition is when the tyre starts moving, ie driving beyond the limits of it.
As defined by your latest discovery  :-\
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Re: Possible cheap 17" tyres deal?
« Reply #38 on: 27 September 2014, 21:01:37 »

The F1s on the front of the Bullet have gained some worrying splits on the inner edge sidewall (both tyres).

Based on this, and the appalling life I got off TBE's ones does mean I cannot personally endorse these tyres any more.
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« Reply #39 on: 27 September 2014, 21:16:08 »

The F1s on the front of the Bullet have gained some worrying splits on the inner edge sidewall (both tyres).

Based on this, and the appalling life I got off TBE's ones does mean I cannot personally endorse these tyres any more.
What pressures do you run :-\
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Re: Possible cheap 17" tyres deal?
« Reply #40 on: 27 September 2014, 23:13:10 »

The F1s on the front of the Bullet have gained some worrying splits on the inner edge sidewall (both tyres).

Based on this, and the appalling life I got off TBE's ones does mean I cannot personally endorse these tyres any more.

Date code?
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Re: Possible cheap 17" tyres deal?
« Reply #41 on: 27 September 2014, 23:16:26 »

Only for you J. ;D

EVERYONE else knows to drive within the performance window of the tyres they have fitted ;D

....although, define over driven...? :-\
My definition is when the tyre starts moving, ie driving beyond the limits of it.
....ok. In that case that certainly was not what caused the FALKEN issues I had.

But if over driven the structural strength of the tyre, then yes, that I can understand, if that's possiible, which I believe it is rightly or wrongly.
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Re: Possible cheap 17" tyres deal?
« Reply #42 on: 27 September 2014, 23:19:51 »

Only for you J. ;D

EVERYONE else knows to drive within the performance window of the tyres they have fitted ;D

....although, define over driven...? :-\
My definition is when the tyre starts moving, ie driving beyond the limits of it.
....ok. In that case that certainly was not what caused the FALKEN issues I had.

But if over driven the structural strength of the tyre, then yes, that I can understand, if that's possiible, which I believe it is rightly or wrongly.
Latest discovery suggests that it is... and partly why I asked about pressures :y
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Re: Possible cheap 17" tyres deal?
« Reply #43 on: 27 September 2014, 23:50:19 »

The F1s on the front of the Bullet have gained some worrying splits on the inner edge sidewall (both tyres).

Based on this, and the appalling life I got off TBE's ones does mean I cannot personally endorse these tyres any more.


thats not very hard to do.. I can do it within 5-10 minutes on a bad road TC off full throttle on low gears and sideways until you burn/burst them out  ::)


imo stop testing the limits of tyres and the car..
« Last Edit: 27 September 2014, 23:54:49 by cem »
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Re: Possible cheap 17" tyres deal?
« Reply #44 on: 28 September 2014, 09:36:53 »

The F1s on the front of the Bullet have gained some worrying splits on the inner edge sidewall (both tyres).

Based on this, and the appalling life I got off TBE's ones does mean I cannot personally endorse these tyres any more.
What pressures do you run :-\
32psi, as per vehicle manufacturers recommendations
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