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Sheared Bolts
« on: 01 October 2014, 09:38:54 »

Almost half the bolts have shered off trying to get heat sheilds off  :-[
No way of getting them out so what is the preferred method of re securing  :-\
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Re: Sheared Bolts
« Reply #1 on: 01 October 2014, 09:41:39 »

Well as per my post a few minutes before I haver the same issue, so I shall follow this thread with interest, should mine get no replies!  :y

My idea (and I'm waiting on others' opinions) is to drill out the threads, insert small bolts from inside the car (NO idea where they would come out, I'm guessing underneath a seat or somewhere equally inaccessible) use one nut to hold the bolt to the car, then another to hold the shield in place.  :)
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Re: Sheared Bolts
« Reply #2 on: 01 October 2014, 09:44:48 »

I would drill out the hole and fit a rivnut. :y
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Re: Sheared Bolts
« Reply #3 on: 01 October 2014, 09:53:23 »

Sorry i meant to add that these bolts are for the heat sheilds above the exhaust .. took them
off to gain access to handbrake mechs .  Do the sheilds really need
to go back on  :-\
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Re: Sheared Bolts
« Reply #4 on: 01 October 2014, 10:03:00 »

At the risk of stating the obvious, car companies tend not to fit things unless they have to for cost/servicing/lengevity/safety/sales reasons, or a blend of all... If they spend money fitting them, then they're probably required.

Last night I found one heat shield was slightly stuck to the stone chip underbody protection, clearly it had been touching, and slightly melted the paint. So I'm guessing they can/do get reasonably warm. So the metal of the floorpan will be able to take the heat, but perhaps the paint won't?
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Re: Sheared Bolts
« Reply #5 on: 01 October 2014, 10:26:52 »

Personally wouldnt want to remove the heat shields steve.

are you able to drill 'em out and retap the holes? (have a tap n die set if needed)
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Re: Sheared Bolts
« Reply #6 on: 01 October 2014, 10:31:57 »

Drill out and fit a nut insert
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Re: Sheared Bolts
« Reply #7 on: 01 October 2014, 13:44:39 »

Personally wouldnt want to remove the heat shields steve.

are you able to drill 'em out and retap the holes? (have a tap n die set if needed)

No mate , dont have any tap n die sets  :-[ Always been a bit worried about leaving the shields off , just haven't had the capabilities to put back on  :(
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Re: Sheared Bolts
« Reply #8 on: 01 October 2014, 13:59:40 »

The threads that the nuts screw onto are welded to the outside of the floo, not through it...

Self tappers with a smear of sealant or use rivnuts, again with a smear of sealant before fittin the heat shields :y
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Re: Sheared Bolts
« Reply #9 on: 01 October 2014, 14:08:31 »

Are rivnuts a combination of a rivet and a nut how do they work.
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Re: Sheared Bolts
« Reply #10 on: 01 October 2014, 14:11:13 »

This what you mean ? Where would you get them from and what size  :-\



Or these ?

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Re: Sheared Bolts
« Reply #11 on: 01 October 2014, 14:16:57 »

The threads that the nuts screw onto are welded to the outside of the floo, not through it...

Self tappers with a smear of sealant or use rivnuts, again with a smear of sealant before fittin the heat shields :y

Oh, that's interesting... so actually if I were to drill 'through' the thread, which normally would be very tough steel, is actually gong to be going through let's say 1mm of floorpan? That's good news, then.  :)
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Re: Sheared Bolts
« Reply #12 on: 01 October 2014, 14:17:27 »

This is the best place, IMHO...

http://www.memfast.co.uk/

But you can get cheap kits of a few fasteners of each size and a tool that would do the job for a one-off:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Silverline-633942-Threaded-Rivet-Insert/dp/B000WTJPLO

The mandrels on the cheap tools are very easily broken so be careful when using them to keep the mandrel at 90 degrees to the panel.
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Re: Sheared Bolts
« Reply #13 on: 01 October 2014, 14:20:21 »

Would they not pop rivet on  :-\ Reason i ask is i have a new pop r gun  :)

Ah scrap that idea , if i pop them will be hard to get the shields off again  :-X ;D
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Re: Sheared Bolts
« Reply #14 on: 01 October 2014, 14:21:47 »

Would they not pop rivet on  :-\

Yes, but then you have to drill the rivet out and renew it every time you have to remove the panel.
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