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[Crazycarzowner]

How about

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-05-JAGUAR-S-TYPE-2-7d-V6-SE-AUTO-GREAT-HISTORY-LAST-SERVICE-55-000-/251549239124?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3a9180c754

[chrisgixer]

By sensible money.... Do you mean.... Say, 5k?


Or are we talking one of those cash v desire equations?

One of them.  Although there is always an upper limit, plus there is a good change it may have to be diesel unless its very cheap.

What? Diesel...?  .... So getting married and having kids then? Another one gone. They're dropping like flys.

Now you're being just silly, stupid boy Pike.

With the local BP stopping selling LPG, and the next nearest being a 23 mile round trip, LPG may not be a viable option now. So either a reasonable diesel or shitbox petrol. No brainer really.

Nope, your life is over. Goodbye.

YOUR buying a Diesel. ...and, somehow, I'M Stupid. ..?

Oppsing move. Anything. But not a diesel. Sit yourself down. Take a tablet, and GET OVER IT.

[Entwood]

By sensible money.... Do you mean.... Say, 5k?


Or are we talking one of those cash v desire equations?

One of them.  Although there is always an upper limit, plus there is a good change it may have to be diesel unless its very cheap.

What? Diesel...?  .... So getting married and having kids then? Another one gone. They're dropping like flys.

Now you're being just silly, stupid boy Pike.

With the local BP stopping selling LPG, and the next nearest being a 23 mile round trip, LPG may not be a viable option now. So either a reasonable diesel or shitbox petrol. No brainer really.

Nope, your life is over. Goodbye.

YOUR buying a Diesel. ...and, somehow, I'M Stupid. ..?

Oppsing move. Anything. But not a diesel. Sit yourself down. Take a tablet, and GET OVER IT.

Given the performance of the diseasals at Le Mans over the past few years ... just WHAT is your objection to them ?? A modern diesel is/can be a very accomplished power unit. It is only the stupidity of the DPF that, IMHO, make them unusable in some applications.

Still prefer fart-gas however ..

[chrisgixer]

By sensible money.... Do you mean.... Say, 5k?


Or are we talking one of those cash v desire equations?

One of them.  Although there is always an upper limit, plus there is a good change it may have to be diesel unless its very cheap.

What? Diesel...?  .... So getting married and having kids then? Another one gone. They're dropping like flys.

Now you're being just silly, stupid boy Pike.

With the local BP stopping selling LPG, and the next nearest being a 23 mile round trip, LPG may not be a viable option now. So either a reasonable diesel or shitbox petrol. No brainer really.

Nope, your life is over. Goodbye.

YOUR buying a Diesel. ...and, somehow, I'M Stupid. ..?

Oppsing move. Anything. But not a diesel. Sit yourself down. Take a tablet, and GET OVER IT.

Given the performance of the diseasals at Le Mans over the past few years ... just WHAT is your objection to them ?? A modern diesel is/can be a very accomplished power unit. It is only the stupidity of the DPF that, IMHO, make them unusable in some applications.

Still prefer fart-gas however ..

Pipe and slippers? Massively expensive repair bills? Turbos. Lift pumps. More pumps. Other pumps. Injectors. All cost a bloody fortune to repair or replace.

CHRIST this is like re learning the bloody bible. We've been over this a squillion times.

[chrisgixer]

....and, for the pleasure, they are more expensive to start with.

[henryd]

....and, for the pleasure, they are more expensive to start with.

So your not a diesel fan then Chris

[chrisgixer]

....and, for the pleasure, they are more expensive to start with.

So your not a diesel fan then Chris

all things are relative H.

If no other type of car existed, even milk floats have a place.

But we're comparing an lpg'd petrol to a Diseasel. Arguably borderline on fuel costs, but not when you add in upkeep. Turbos, pumps, injectors etc etc all cost a fortune if they fail.  And they will at 3-400 bar.

Plus, I'm sure with even a nano second of planning stupid boy pike TB could fill up on his way to or from work and avoid using petrol until the next working day

[henryd]

....and, for the pleasure, they are more expensive to start with.

So your not a diesel fan then Chris

all things re relative H.

If no other type of car existed, even milk floats have a place.

But we're comparing an lpg'd petrol to a Diseasel. Arguably borderline on fuel costs, but not when you add in upkeep. Turbos, pumps, injectors etc etc all cost a fortune if they fail.

Plus, I'm sure with even a nano second of planning stupid boy pike TB could fill up on his way to or from work and avoid using petrol until the next working day

I agree with the downside re cost of bits,just a shame as the bigger oilers have so much grunt these days,the Signum I've just sold would eat my old v6 omega during normal driving although balls out there probably wasn't much between them other than fuel consumption

[chrisgixer]

Yep,  and it's nice to see 600 miles range when its full as well. But still, even then, duel fuel still wins. Smoother, quieter, less dead weight in sound deadening and over engineering to hide the sound of 400 bar of "water hammer" banging away under the bonnet.

[VXL V6]

Yep,  and it's nice to see 600 miles range when its full as well. But still, even then, duel fuel still wins. Smoother, quieter, less dead weight in sound deadening and over engineering to hide the sound of 400 bar of "water hammer" banging away under the bonnet.

I presume an LPG tank isn't weightless......! For every For there's an Against and vica versa in the Derv V LPG argument.

[Sir Tigger KC]

Subaru Legacy. Something like this but LPGed. 

A diseaseled one for TB of course. 

[TheBoy]

How about

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-05-JAGUAR-S-TYPE-2-7d-V6-SE-AUTO-GREAT-HISTORY-LAST-SERVICE-55-000-/251549239124?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item3a9180c754

Not an S Type. XF maybe, but too pricey still.

[TheBoy]

Plus, I'm sure with even a nano second of planning stupid boy pike TB could fill up on his way to or from work and avoid using petrol until the next working day

Only with a detour in rushhour traffic, it generally adds about 50mins to my journey (its about 3 miles out of the way) as opposed to about 20mins at BP (mainly because they are retards and would rather stack shelves than take payment).

However, Mrs TB has no options for filling, except Morrisons that is currently about 90 mins detour in rush hour traffic (about 4 miles each way).

There is a rumour that the really expensive BP on A5 just north of MK stopping LPG as well. Are BP pulling out, or at least rejigging which ones sell LPG?


So buying a thirsty petrol, then paying for conversion, in the hope that more LPG stations will open is looking less attractive than a good diesel at the moment.

[aaronjb]

I seriously considered one of these as an alternative to the 2014 X-trail: http://www.ford.co.uk/Cars/Ranger/Models-and-prices

Obviously I drove the 3.2 diesel, not the lethargic 2.2.. fantastic fun, incredibly practical with the minor problem of 20mpg

.. so maybe not.

[TheBoy]

I seriously considered one of these as an alternative to the 2014 X-trail: http://www.ford.co.uk/Cars/Ranger/Models-and-prices

Obviously I drove the 3.2 diesel, not the lethargic 2.2.. fantastic fun, incredibly practical with the minor problem of 20mpg

.. so maybe not.

Fords are most likely out for reasons mentioned earlier...  ...I'm quite prone to crashing them. Though that is particularly Escorts and Focus', mainly because they don't go where you point them.