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[Stuart30]

Well well seems that theres more to my car than the seller stated.

My V5 arrived today and it states the car has "Substaintially repaired and /or Accident Damaged;Identity checked 01/08/2014.

Now this is the bit I find annoying/offensive...both myself and mechanic friend asked the history and what was wrong,chap lied through his teeth about smell of oil being where he topped up as its the cam(s) cover...and various other stuff that we agreed could be sorted.

The chap selling was selling on behalf of his grandad..when we questioned why the log book stated 2 months ownership as opposed the advertised 2 yrs we were suspicious,add on the house is next to a Local second hand car dealer and the car was surprise surprise MOT"d at the very same garage,we both chuckled and said the owner was selling through his grandson to avoid being held liable as a dealer/trader.

Anyway ive googled the owners name and surprise surprise he is the Garage owner...so phoned him and was told the car sat for 2 yrs and the fact its been a write off is and I quote "None of your F--ing business and whats it got to do with you...followed by more abuse and told to F--ck off and don't bother him again.

Charming chap huh.

So is there anyway (Free) to check what Cat write off it was/is and what the VIC test tested...assuming it could have been a dented bumper or complete front end smash,so just for peace of mind and before throwing it around any more corners,id like to find the accident history.

[Kate]

There are some cheap vehicle check websites. They charge about £4. Maybe you could start there?

[Andy B]

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Anyway ive googled the owners name and surprise surprise he is the Garage owner...so phoned him and was told the car sat for 2 yrs and the fact its been a write off is and I quote "None of your F--ing business and whats it got to do with you...followed by more abuse and told to F--ck off and don't bother him again.

Charming chap huh. ....

It's obviously got lots to do with you ......  http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/wales/consumer_w/consumer_cars_and_other_vehicles_e/consumer_problems_with_the_car_you_bought_e/consumer_the_vehicle_you_bought_doesnt_match_its_description_e/the_car_you_bought_is_a_write_off.htm

and http://www.adviceguide.org.uk/wales/consumer_w/consumer_cars_and_other_vehicles_e/consumer_problems_with_the_car_you_bought_e/consumer_the_vehicle_you_bought_doesnt_match_its_description_e/the_vehicle_you_bought_doesnt_match_its_description.htm

[flyer 0712]

I saw that car add...it was on there at least twice....I enquired about it but it just some how did not feel right,,the guy was a bit evasive,so I decided not to bother......As he is not a  (trader ) lol......and as a private seller he does not have to declare it as a repaired vehicle,,So it is the old phrase...buyer beware.....but the guy is a lying swine and he will get his just deserts some where down the line...

[carswaps]

If its stated on the Log book its a cat C
Cat D does not appear on the V5
Txt Ctc reg number to 83600
(That's ctc space then the reg number.
Costs £3 from a contract phone, not sure if it works on pay as you go.

[flyer 0712]

Just read the other reply and yes I think that is correct,,,,but on another forum I read it states that private sellers do not have to tell you about it....It is wrong for him to down right lie to you,but even proving that could be a problem.....If the car drives ok and has a genuine m.o.t. but he did not tell you about cat .c.....what can you do...I realy hope that there is something you can do about it so I wish you well on finding out the facts and putting that scum in his place 

[flyer 0712]

Yep does work on pay as you go as I have done it on several occasions 

[henryd]

The VIC check is only an identity check to ensure the car has had an id swap,they don't record and are not interested in damage or what repairs have been carried out 

[4x4]

I would put car through an mot by somebody you can trust and see if it is all above board.

[Andy H]

Might be worth sending a copy of your description of what happened to the local trading standards so they can add it to his file.......

Leopards don't change their spots - trading standards maybe unaware of of how he works (or they may be waiting for one more transgression before acting).

[Stuart30]

I saw that car add...it was on there at least twice....I enquired about it but it just some how did not feel right,,the guy was a bit evasive,so I decided not to bother......As he is not a  (trader ) lol......and as a private seller he does not have to declare it as a repaired vehicle,,So it is the old phrase...buyer beware.....but the guy is a lying swine and he will get his just deserts some where down the line...

Bloke owns the garage (Car sales)...so yes he is 100% a dealer...lol

The deal was done via his grandson...still owed by garage owner.

[Stuart30]

The VIC check is only an identity check to ensure the car has had an id swap,they don't record and are not interested in damage or what repairs have been carried out 

Thought that was the whole idea of the VIC check...my Galaxy has been written off and im told it needs a VIC check to ensure repairs have been done properly.


Shame the seller wasn't a bit more honest as I love the car and despite a few known faults,it drives and looks amazing.

Why lie about something and then get aggressive when caught out...sorry mate would have gone along way.

[78bex]

Nasty lyin rogue trader I can ask my bro-in-law (highway maintenance) to nip around & dig up his road to a depth of 30 or 40 feet & then just bugger off

[05omegav6]

VIC is purely to verify that the vehicle presented is the same as the one written off.

My V5 says summat along the lines of substantial repair/accident damage OSR quarter. In reality it had a new bumper, wing and tailgate. To be presented for a VIC it first needs a fresh Mot. The fact is that the VIC is carried out by VOSA at a VOSA test station, so rest assured that anything dangerous will be picked upon.

Sellers only need to answer direct questions, rather than volunteer information...

[05omegav6]

Nasty lyin rogue trader I can ask my bro-in-law (highway maintenance) to nip around & dig up his road to a depth of 30 or 40 feet & then just bugger off

Nope that would inconvenience everyone besides, the seller has only lied if he has knowingly answered a specific question falsely. Had Stuart specifically asked if the car had been written off, wnd the seller replied no, never... Then he has lied. Even a basic free dvla check will tell you the VIC status... Just because you're spending £40 rather than £40k doesn't mean that you shouldn't have an Hpi check done.

Tough shit by the sound of it...

Btw, my car has a Cat C VIC marker due to a broken screen and twenty or so stone chips, so might not be such a big deal...

Besides, at £475, it's hardly going to be perfect