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[VXL V6]

Sorry but the way I read this is that you looked at the car, there were a couple of items that were questionable, you never did any history checks on it and you thought the seller was dodgy. You then purchased the car and stated it seemed a bargain for £475.

To me if something doesn't seem right or something seems too good a deal, then either walk away or dig deeper, Always HPI check any car you want to buy because a £40 HPI cost is less than losing the value of any car....

[Steve B]

Anyone got a link to the ad 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Scant sympathy here Stu....   

[05omegav6]

Scant sympathy here Stu....   

Yup... we're all heart

[Stuart30]

Sorry but the way I read this is that you looked at the car, there were a couple of items that were questionable, you never did any history checks on it and you thought the seller was dodgy. You then purchased the car and stated it seemed a bargain for £475.

To me if something doesn't seem right or something seems too good a deal, then either walk away or dig deeper, Always HPI check any car you want to buy because a £40 HPI cost is less than losing the value of any car....

It is a bargain...but what has annoyed me is the fact the seller lied through his teeth,he was asked many direct questions,seems like quite a lot of them he lied about.

As said if he had been honest then bang on,no grumble as would still have bought the car...id have appreciated him saying what had happened to it to cause it to be written off.

Now that's EXACTLY what I asked the owner last night and was told to F--k off....so yes ive asked a direct question,wouldn't want to return the car regardless of the Previous damage,but would be good to have been told.

[Stuart30]

Nasty lyin rogue trader I can ask my bro-in-law (highway maintenance) to nip around & dig up his road to a depth of 30 or 40 feet & then just bugger off

Nope that would inconvenience everyone besides, the seller has only lied if he has knowingly answered a specific question falsely. Had Stuart specifically asked if the car had been written off, wnd the seller replied no, never... Then he has lied. Even a basic free dvla check will tell you the VIC status... Just because you're spending £40 rather than £40k doesn't mean that you shouldn't have an Hpi check done.

Tough shit by the sound of it...

Btw, my car has a Cat C VIC marker due to a broken screen and twenty or so stone chips, so might not be such a big deal...

Besides, at £475, it's hardly going to be perfect

Theres no tough shit as im happy withy car...but as said the seller should have been honest,hell he even listed it on Ebay without any mention of the known faults.

I took a mechanic friend as I needed his expert opinion...what if some poor sod had bought it on ebay for £750 + and then found out the faults,whilst its not ideal to be honest when selling a car,theres not offering information and then theres blatantly taking the piss.

[VXL V6]

Sorry but the way I read this is that you looked at the car, there were a couple of items that were questionable, you never did any history checks on it and you thought the seller was dodgy. You then purchased the car and stated it seemed a bargain for £475.

To me if something doesn't seem right or something seems too good a deal, then either walk away or dig deeper, Always HPI check any car you want to buy because a £40 HPI cost is less than losing the value of any car....

It is a bargain...but what has annoyed me is the fact the seller lied through his teeth,he was asked many direct questions,seems like quite a lot of them he lied about.

As said if he had been honest then bang on,no grumble as would still have bought the car...id have appreciated him saying what had happened to it to cause it to be written off.

Now that's EXACTLY what I asked the owner last night and was told to F--k off....so yes ive asked a direct question,wouldn't want to return the car regardless of the Previous damage,but would be good to have been told.

No disrespect but that's after you've bought it, not before.

[Sir Tigger KC]

I took a mechanic friend as I needed his expert opinion...what if some poor sod had bought it on ebay for £750 + and then found out the faults,whilst its not ideal to be honest when selling a car,theres not offering information and then theres blatantly taking the piss.

 

[Stuart30]

Sorry but the way I read this is that you looked at the car, there were a couple of items that were questionable, you never did any history checks on it and you thought the seller was dodgy. You then purchased the car and stated it seemed a bargain for £475.

To me if something doesn't seem right or something seems too good a deal, then either walk away or dig deeper, Always HPI check any car you want to buy because a £40 HPI cost is less than losing the value of any car....

It is a bargain...but what has annoyed me is the fact the seller lied through his teeth,he was asked many direct questions,seems like quite a lot of them he lied about.

As said if he had been honest then bang on,no grumble as would still have bought the car...id have appreciated him saying what had happened to it to cause it to be written off.

Now that's EXACTLY what I asked the owner last night and was told to F--k off....so yes ive asked a direct question,wouldn't want to return the car regardless of the Previous damage,but would be good to have been told.

No disrespect but that's after you've bought it, not before.

Yes true,but shows the attitude of the seller...point is seller tried to take the piss,luckily I took my mate along,so it didn't work for them and that's why I paid £475 and not £750.

Silly me when I sold my Galaxy first thing I said was "Its classed as a total loss"" ok so total loss was a track rod end...but at least I was open about it.

But seems that some of you agree with with holding the fact a car has been written off previously...wont be buying any motors off here 

See if the seller had said it had been a write off and offerd the info "Needed rear bumber or " needed XYZ"...yeah no worries glad to know,instead its ended up as a debate and highlights the fact the seller is a lier.

Oh also lied about the fact it had been sat 2 yrs in garden...hmm old MOT"s suggest different as does the increasing mileage...lol.

But hey whats it matter..i love my new car...love the price paid and learnt never be honest when selling a car.

[biggriffin]

Sorry but the way I read this is that you looked at the car, there were a couple of items that were questionable, you never did any history checks on it and you thought the seller was dodgy. You then purchased the car and stated it seemed a bargain for £475.

....

So what did you want for £475.
Honset and motor trader don't go together.
Also its got 12mths mot,if not happy punt it.(gumtree)

[Stuart30]

Sorry but the way I read this is that you looked at the car, there were a couple of items that were questionable, you never did any history checks on it and you thought the seller was dodgy. You then purchased the car and stated it seemed a bargain for £475.

....

So what did you want for £475.
Honset and motor trader don't go together.
Also its got 12mths mot,if not happy punt it.(gumtree)

That's the point...the bloke lied about being involved with the garage....he lied about many things.

Ive got exactly what I expected for £475...but that's got nothing to do with the fact the blokes a bare faced lier.

Question for you...I come to buy a motor from you (assume your a private seller) would you offer the fact its a write off or would you keep quiet about it.?

[powerslinky]

Well well seems that theres more to my car than the seller stated.

My V5 arrived today and it states the car has "Substaintially repaired and /or Accident Damaged;Identity checked 01/08/2014.

Now this is the bit I find annoying/offensive...both myself and mechanic friend asked the history and what was wrong,chap lied through his teeth about smell of oil being where he topped up as its the cam(s) cover...and various other stuff that we agreed could be sorted.

The chap selling was selling on behalf of his grandad..when we questioned why the log book stated 2 months ownership as opposed the advertised 2 yrs we were suspicious,add on the house is next to a Local second hand car dealer and the car was surprise surprise MOT"d at the very same garage,we both chuckled and said the owner was selling through his grandson to avoid being held liable as a dealer/trader.

Anyway ive googled the owners name and surprise surprise he is the Garage owner...so phoned him and was told the car sat for 2 yrs and the fact its been a write off is and I quote "None of your F--ing business and whats it got to do with you...followed by more abuse and told to F--ck off and don't bother him again.

Charming chap huh.

So is there anyway (Free) to check what Cat write off it was/is and what the VIC test tested...assuming it could have been a dented bumper or complete front end smash,so just for peace of mind and before throwing it around any more corners,id like to find the accident history.

I would not worry too much about the fact it has had a VIC check  . . . at least it has had this check & passed.

I had a situation where I did not know (and was not told by the seller) that the car had been a total loss/ non economical insurance write off.

First I heard was when DVLA would not issue the new V5 in my name until a VIC had been carried out 

I brought the car after seeing it & the VERY VERY minor damage ( small dent in wing m small scrape on  both passenger doors. Seller told me car was clipped by a dustcart out side his house when his wife was in it about to pull away & that she would not drive it anymore . No mention that he had been paid out by the insurance company .

But , the same as you , I really liked the car & knew it would be  back to A1  with less than £100 spent on it.

What is worrying  is when you read the notes on the post VIC  V5   . . ."substansially repaired  or accident damaged" as in most cases it's not & it could just be minor damage  or something similar . With omegas not being worth much  . . . does not take a lot to be "an uneconomical write off"

You're lucky you have not got to go  to the VIC check "circus" . .  in my case it was a nightmare

[D]

Most car dealers/ resellers lie about a variety of things. I have yet to meet a completely honest car salesman. Franchised dealerships are known to have disconnected odo's whilst transporting cars between branches to keep mileage to a minimum. Transport accidents are repaired and the owner of a new car often isnt told anything about it. The buyer thinks he is getting a brand new car, whilst in reality the car has been repaired/repainted.

Private sellers are often worse. Cars that have spent their life on a track get advertised as "single lady owner".

Such is life. Caveat emptor.

[Stuart30]

Well well seems that theres more to my car than the seller stated.

My V5 arrived today and it states the car has "Substaintially repaired and /or Accident Damaged;Identity checked 01/08/2014.

Now this is the bit I find annoying/offensive...both myself and mechanic friend asked the history and what was wrong,chap lied through his teeth about smell of oil being where he topped up as its the cam(s) cover...and various other stuff that we agreed could be sorted.

The chap selling was selling on behalf of his grandad..when we questioned why the log book stated 2 months ownership as opposed the advertised 2 yrs we were suspicious,add on the house is next to a Local second hand car dealer and the car was surprise surprise MOT"d at the very same garage,we both chuckled and said the owner was selling through his grandson to avoid being held liable as a dealer/trader.

Anyway ive googled the owners name and surprise surprise he is the Garage owner...so phoned him and was told the car sat for 2 yrs and the fact its been a write off is and I quote "None of your F--ing business and whats it got to do with you...followed by more abuse and told to F--ck off and don't bother him again.

Charming chap huh.

So is there anyway (Free) to check what Cat write off it was/is and what the VIC test tested...assuming it could have been a dented bumper or complete front end smash,so just for peace of mind and before throwing it around any more corners,id like to find the accident history.

I would not worry too much about the fact it has had a VIC check  . . . at least it has had this check & passed.

I had a situation where I did not know (and was not told by the seller) that the car had been a total loss/ non economical insurance write off.

First I heard was when DVLA would not issue the new V5 in my name until a VIC had been carried out 

I brought the car after seeing it & the VERY VERY minor damage ( small dent in wing m small scrape on  both passenger doors. Seller told me car was clipped by a dustcart out side his house when his wife was in it about to pull away & that she would not drive it anymore . No mention that he had been paid out by the insurance company .

But , the same as you , I really liked the car & knew it would be  back to A1  with less than £100 spent on it.

What is worrying  is when you read the notes on the post VIC  V5   . . ."substansially repaired  or accident damaged" as in most cases it's not & it could just be minor damage  or something similar . With omegas not being worth much  . . . does not take a lot to be "an uneconomical write off"

You're lucky you have not got to go  to the VIC check "circus" . .  in my case it was a nightmare

That's pretty much it Al...I was just freaked when read that ."substansially repaired  or accident damaged" after walking in from work.

And yes fully agree these old motors are not worth very much now,so chances are it could have been something very minor,which is why id have thought the seller or the owner would have mentioned it.

Cheap as chips for the price...little honesty would have spoken volumes about seller and invariably gained him work as the car was serviced and MOT"d at the garage for several years,so them knowng the car would have made sense to me for them to carry on looking after it.

[05omegav6]

Even at £750, what looks to be a clean and tidy car with a years ticket and history is still a good deal...

My ex police, ex taxi, 270k mile thrice written off 3.2 estate was valued at £950 last time it was written off, and were it not for the recently discovered crack in the screen, it would be on the road, (currently sorned with no MoT, but apart from the screen, totally roadworthy)...

If you do a dvla check on my car, it is still showing a VIC Required marker, mostly because I cba to get it done do a handfull of stonechips really make it dangerous Didn't think so

The fact that the seller (or his grandson) have owned the vehicle for a long period of time and have bothered to get the VIC done actually says more than you give them credit for. And were you to ring me, effing and blinding about summat that you could easily have found out independently and accusing me of things, then I would probably react in kind... as would you if the shoe was on tother foot.

Besides, I'm not sure they have actually done anything wrong by selling the car 'out of trade' if it was their personal transport (ie registered to and maintained by themselves)

As for not buying a car from anyone here, well more fool you... as that kind of statement really misses the point of the forum.