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[chrisgixer]

I can't believe anyone is disagreeing with Cem.  He is the Oracle!

Maybe, but he fails to understand the concept that Auto is better than a Manual, even in a modern diesel................

auto .............yuk...




diesel .... double yuk

It's not a quality thing cem, it's an issue of reliability.

If it where a quality issue, then clearly you have it completely arse backwards, as usual

[Andy B]

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auto .............yuk...




diesel .... double yuk

I kinda agree with you ....... but only on one part if it. But needs must, hence my auto diseasal  because you can't get three pedals in a R Class 

[Vamps]

Cem has spoken.  Everyone else is wrong FAKT!

ok.. I said 2 things..


1 -  I dont like diesels and autos or combination
2 -  manuals consume less and accelerate faster.. statistically true and widely accepted fact..


any exception of automated manuals or rocket science trannies with XXXX gears wont change the fact


and this truth dont belong to me.. its universal..

Ok, God has spoken, no use arguing. You will only get a headache. Which is often what I get when I read God's posts. 

ok.. go buy one auto diesel and share your experience later

I did, for the second time and it's a great car, I am happy with my choice, thank you...........

[cem_devecioglu]

I can't believe anyone is disagreeing with Cem.  He is the Oracle!

Maybe, but he fails to understand the concept that Auto is better than a Manual, even in a modern diesel................

auto .............yuk...




diesel .... double yuk

It's not a quality thing cem, it's an issue of reliability.

If it where a quality issue, then clearly you have it completely arse backwards, as usual

reliabity together with auto and diesel.. bollirx .. no.. double bollirx as usual

[Vamps]

I can't believe anyone is disagreeing with Cem.  He is the Oracle!

Maybe, but he fails to understand the concept that Auto is better than a Manual, even in a modern diesel................

auto .............yuk...




diesel .... double yuk

It's not a quality thing cem, it's an issue of reliability.

If it where a quality issue, then clearly you have it completely arse backwards, as usual

reliabity together with auto and diesel.. bollirx .. no.. double bollirx as usual

I don't know what you have in your country, but in the UK I find diesel and auto, perfectly acceptable and am on my second; OK the first was a Citroen 45K miles without a hitch, now with a Honda 52K no problem.............

You may disagree but please do not TELL me what I should drive..........

[cem_devecioglu]

I can't believe anyone is disagreeing with Cem.  He is the Oracle!

Maybe, but he fails to understand the concept that Auto is better than a Manual, even in a modern diesel................

auto .............yuk...




diesel .... double yuk

It's not a quality thing cem, it's an issue of reliability.

If it where a quality issue, then clearly you have it completely arse backwards, as usual

reliabity together with auto and diesel.. bollirx .. no.. double bollirx as usual

I don't know what you have in your country, but in the UK I find diesel and auto, perfectly acceptable and am on my second; OK the first was a Citroen 45K miles without a hitch, now with a Honda 52K no problem.............

You may disagree but please do not TELL me what I should drive..........

the question is : really where in my posts have you seen that I tell you or someone what to drive ?


all of them reflect my personal opinions..   but I see for some (not you) its a chance to criticise which I dont care..


by the way , to say my last word about that subject diesels are expensive to buy from the beginning.. complicated parts and labor also more expensive.. and from engineering point of view if you complicate a device (car or whatever) you increase the chance of it failing.. same is valid for auto.. that simple..

[Varche]

Just google auto problems with Ford Focus diesel Auto.

Some friends thought Good car, diesel that will be economical and auto will be nice in heavy traffic. Didn't take long for the known fault to occur that left them with a repair bill of more thann the car was worth!! Well done Ford.

Going back to the OP, I still think it a good punt.

[Taxi_Driver]

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auto .............yuk...




diesel .... double yuk

I kinda agree with you ....... but only on one part if it. But needs must, hence my auto diseasal  because you can't get three pedals in a R Class 

But that's a merc Andy.....Ive owned a couple of merc diesel auto's that ive used for a cab.....before selling them on....both were nearly at 200k, with no engine/gearbox problems during that time 

But don't buy a merc diesel manual....your asking for trouble 

[YZ250]

This was taken a couple of years ago and it's still going strong. A family friends bmw diesel auto with a fair few miles on the clock. 

[The Sheriff]

Look at the range on that bastid. 

[YZ250]

Look at the range on that bastid. 

 

It's a hard driven 730d as well. 

[05omegav6]

Look at the range on that bastid. 

 

It's a hard driven 730d as well. 

My brother mentioned yesterday that he recently received a promotional offer from a BMW dealer he had test driven a second hand 730 at last year... A brand new 730LD for £39,995

I doubt the boot is upto estate standards though

[henryd]

Look at the range on that bastid. 

 

It's a hard driven 730d as well. 

My Touareg shows a 700 mile range when the tank is full,big tank though

[05omegav6]

Look at the range on that bastid. 

 

It's a hard driven 730d as well. 

My Touareg shows a 700 mile range when the tank is full,big tank though

So does the E class, until I pull away it does have the optional larger tank though...

[henryd]

Look at the range on that bastid. 

 

It's a hard driven 730d as well. 

My Touareg shows a 700 mile range when the tank is full,big tank though

So does the E class, until I pull away it does have the optional larger tank though...

Think mines around 100lt,like a well being filled.