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[Phil]

In certain circumstances I am exempt from using baby / booster seats............

But Yes Andy, it was a pain when Miss Vamps was little and a parent may take 2 or 3 to an activity and another parent pick them up, we used to have to call round to swap them over..........

Not just you, EVERYBODY who has an unexpected journey:-

2. When a child can travel without a car seat

A child can travel without a child car seat in some circumstances.

Taxis and minicabs (private hire vehicles)

In a licensed taxi or minicab:

    children under 3 years of age can travel without a child’s car seat or seat belt, but only on the back seat
    children aged 3 years or older can travel without a child’s car seat if they wear an adult seat belt

Unexpected journeys

If the correct child seat isn’t available, a child over 3 years of age can use an adult seat belt if the journey is all of the following:

    unexpected
    necessary
    over a short distance

You can’t take children under 3 in a vehicle without a seat belt or the correct child car seat (except a taxi or minicab).

No room for a third child seat

Children under 3 must be in a child car seat. If there’s no room for a third child seat in the back of the vehicle, the child must travel in the front seat with the correct child seat.

Children over 3 years can sit in the back using an adult belt.

Vehicles without seat belts

Children under 3 must be in a child car seat. If there’s no seat belt, they can’t travel.

A child over 3 can travel in a back seat without a car seat and without a seat belt if the vehicle doesn’t have one.

....another stupid bit of legislation. You drop your kids off at swimming/football/etc & you can't get back for what ever reason. You ask your mate if he/she will pick them up for you ...... no booster seat - unless Little Johnny always carries his booster seat with him...

So reading the above if you can't get back 'for whatever reason' it becomes an 'unexpected journey', it isn't a stupid bit of legislation, its actually quite sensible in the way its written. If you knew you were not coming back then theres no reason why you couldn't have left the seat with whoever maybe collecting the child

Guess its much more fun to bitch and moan whithout knowledge

[Gaffers]

There does appear to be a full moon tonight

One has to be careful using this phrase on here

[Andy B]

....
    over a short distance

....another stupid bit of legislation. You drop your kids off at swimming/football/etc & you can't get back for what ever reason. You ask your mate if he/she will pick them up for you ...... no booster seat - unless Little Johnny always carries his booster seat with him...

So reading the above if you can't get back 'for whatever reason' it becomes an 'unexpected journey', it isn't a stupid bit of legislation, its actually quite sensible in the way its written. If you knew you were not coming back then theres no reason why you couldn't have left the seat with whoever maybe collecting the child

Guess its much more fun to bitch and moan whithout knowledge

........ and accidents don't happen on short journeys ......


If I'd known when I'd dropped the kids off I would leave the seat ...... but would it fit in the swimming pool changing room locker ........ where do you leave a seat? That scenario is exactly what I mean, you fully intend to go back for them but 'for what ever reason' you can't get back for them. Stupid might not be the right word, but it's certainly unnecessary to legislate ....... it just makes criminal out of more & more ordinary people

[Vamps]

In certain circumstances I am exempt from using baby / booster seats............

But Yes Andy, it was a pain when Miss Vamps was little and a parent may take 2 or 3 to an activity and another parent pick them up, we used to have to call round to swap them over..........

Not just you, EVERYBODY who has an unexpected journey:-

2. When a child can travel without a car seat

A child can travel without a child car seat in some circumstances.

Taxis and minicabs (private hire vehicles)

In a licensed taxi or minicab:

    children under 3 years of age can travel without a child’s car seat or seat belt, but only on the back seat
    children aged 3 years or older can travel without a child’s car seat if they wear an adult seat belt

Unexpected journeys

If the correct child seat isn’t available, a child over 3 years of age can use an adult seat belt if the journey is all of the following:

    unexpected
    necessary
    over a short distance

You can’t take children under 3 in a vehicle without a seat belt or the correct child car seat (except a taxi or minicab).

No room for a third child seat

Children under 3 must be in a child car seat. If there’s no room for a third child seat in the back of the vehicle, the child must travel in the front seat with the correct child seat.

Children over 3 years can sit in the back using an adult belt.

Vehicles without seat belts

Children under 3 must be in a child car seat. If there’s no seat belt, they can’t travel.

A child over 3 can travel in a back seat without a car seat and without a seat belt if the vehicle doesn’t have one.

....another stupid bit of legislation. You drop your kids off at swimming/football/etc & you can't get back for what ever reason. You ask your mate if he/she will pick them up for you ...... no booster seat - unless Little Johnny always carries his booster seat with him...

So reading the above if you can't get back 'for whatever reason' it becomes an 'unexpected journey', it isn't a stupid bit of legislation, its actually quite sensible in the way its written. If you knew you were not coming back then theres no reason why you couldn't have left the seat with whoever maybe collecting the child

Guess its much more fun to bitch and moan whithout knowledge

If I have to do such a think, for work, it is certainly unexpected and necessary, particularly for the parents............

By the way, I wasn't bitching or moaning..........