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« on: 22 May 2015, 21:05:14 »

After MOT advisories and car pulling to the left decided to change wishbones and idler. Got vx idler on order today £93! Recently got Lemforder wishbones from carpartsforless £150 however they now dont come with new bolts so enquired about cost from vx and its £35 so i was wondering is it ok to re-use the three nuts and bolts?
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Re: wishbones and idler
« Reply #1 on: 22 May 2015, 21:11:04 »

I did on mine as they looked fine to me after a good clean up....
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Re: wishbones and idler
« Reply #2 on: 22 May 2015, 21:19:18 »

Would you use loctite on threads or not Steve?
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Re: wishbones and idler
« Reply #3 on: 22 May 2015, 21:20:17 »

I didn't no, can't imagine it would do any hard though.

If the old bolts look corroded or misshapen I would replace though.
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Re: wishbones and idler
« Reply #4 on: 22 May 2015, 21:23:17 »

Thanks Steve, hoping this will help with slight pull ??? to the left ,when i get the parts and fit them :-\
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Re: wishbones and idler
« Reply #5 on: 22 May 2015, 21:26:34 »

The wishbone nuts and bolts never did come with Lemforder bones. The old ones are fine to re use.

They do come with steering knuckle to ball joint bolts though. These i think are important, or at least more Important, to replace with the new ones, as the nuts are slightly crushed to give a tight fit that won't come loose. Therefor, when undoing them after a few years of rust and crap on them, the threads do take a battering and get really hot. Sometimes evaporating off any plus gas or penetrating oil previously applied.

So, don't worry about wishbone bolts. Do fit the ball joint clamp bolts if available. (Only Lemforder seem to bother supplying these afaik)
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Re: wishbones and idler
« Reply #6 on: 22 May 2015, 21:27:17 »

Be prepared for this to be the start, I did wishbones, drops links, track rods front and rear followed by setup. It is much better, but not perfect so I'm looking at donut bushes & top mounts now  :y
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Re: wishbones and idler
« Reply #7 on: 22 May 2015, 21:33:23 »

And yeah, as Steve rightly says. There's a very strong argument for doing the whole lot if possible, and your keeping it long term. Initial cost allowing, it does save money long term.

Top mounts
Shocks
Springs
Bones (poly ?)
Idler(less so as doesn't affect set up too much)
Track rods
Dr links (only if they are very old or knocking though, perhaps, as dont affect set up either)

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Shocks
Springs
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Re: wishbones and idler
« Reply #8 on: 22 May 2015, 21:38:17 »

Thanks for help , carpartsforless say Lemforder dont supply any bolts now(could be they've dropped from plastic bag and they're just covering themselves ::) Will check bolts before re-use , bare with me as i will be doing job first week june :y so will probably need more help
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Re: wishbones and idler
« Reply #9 on: 22 May 2015, 21:39:35 »

Meant to say got new droplinks so that should help :y
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Re: wishbones and idler
« Reply #10 on: 22 May 2015, 21:44:19 »

Thanks for help , carpartsforless say Lemforder dont supply any bolts now(could be they've dropped from plastic bag and they're just covering themselves ::) Will check bolts before re-use , bare with me as i will be doing job first week june :y so will probably need more help

Perhaps check with Jason at all German ? You never know, he might price match, if you mention oof. ;)
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Re: wishbones and idler
« Reply #11 on: 22 May 2015, 21:49:32 »

Thanks Chris will do :y cheers for advice i've done rear shocks and springs last year so they will be good for a while :y
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Re: wishbones and idler
« Reply #12 on: 23 May 2015, 09:22:17 »

I got mine from carparts for less a few weeks ago. Came with the pinch bolts for where it joins the hub. The bump stops fell out on one side and I had to gripfil them back as couldn't be bothered to dismantle to send back. No response from Lemforder regarding this.
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Re: wishbones and idler
« Reply #13 on: 24 May 2015, 10:06:03 »

Mine arrived ok but had 1 pinch bolt,2 bigger nuts and 1 nut for pinch bolt combined togther from the 2 plastic bags, all they're saying is they dont come with any nuts or bolts.....fobbed off again :(
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Re: wishbones and idler
« Reply #14 on: 31 May 2015, 21:44:58 »

The wishbone nuts and bolts never did come with Lemforder bones. The old ones are fine to re use.

They do come with steering knuckle to ball joint bolts though. These i think are important, or at least more Important, to replace with the new ones, as the nuts are slightly crushed to give a tight fit that won't come loose. Therefor, when undoing them after a few years of rust and crap on them, the threads do take a battering and get really hot. Sometimes evaporating off any plus gas or penetrating oil previously applied.

So, don't worry about wishbone bolts. Do fit the ball joint clamp bolts if available. (Only Lemforder seem to bother supplying these afaik)
Just like to add; last week I changed the wishbones on my 95000 miles 2001 2.6 saloon bought in May. All went well except removing the pinch bolts. They were well rusted in and determined to stay there. I tried heat, but proximity of ABS sensors made it too risky. With calipers and discs removed, I managed to unscrew nuts with big impact wrench, but bolts still stuck. Finally shifted bolts with 18mm impact hexagon hammered on to bolt heads, turned them a bit with 24" breaker bar, then drifted bolts out with big hammer. That's the trouble with old low mileage cars - lots of original bits still present. I used new nuts and bolts on reassembly.
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