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kris9128

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« on: 07 July 2008, 20:38:45 »

just had this e-mailed to me by some body who is outraged. just wondered what you peeps thought.
An education authority is investigating claims that two school pupils were punished for refusing to kneel down and pray to Allah during a religious education lesson.

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Parents complained after the boys, Year 7 pupils at Alsager High School in Cheshire, were given detention for being "disrespectful" to the prophet, the Congleton Chronicle reported.

Parent Sharon Luinen told the paper: "This isn't right, it's taking things too far.

"I understand that they have to learn about other religions, I can live with that, but it is taking it a step too far to be punished because they wouldn't join in Muslim prayer. Making them pray to Allah, who isn't who they worship, is wrong and what got me is that they were told they were being disrespectful."

The school is believed to have received complaints from five sets of parents since the alleged incident on Tuesday.

Another parent, Karen Williams, said: "I am absolutely furious my daughter was made to take part in it and I don't find it acceptable. I haven't got a problem with them teaching my child other religions and a small amount of information doesn't do any harm.

"But not only did they have to pray, the teacher had gone into the class and made them watch a short film and then said 'We are now going out to pray to Allah'. And then two boys got detention and all the other children missed their refreshments break because of the teacher."

She added: "My child has been forced to pray to Allah in a school lesson."

The incident is believed to have taken place during a practical demonstration of how Allah is worshipped.

Cheshire County Council confirmed that parents had complained about the lesson, and said the circumstances of the incident were to be "thoroughly" looked into.

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« Reply #1 on: 07 July 2008, 20:41:06 »

may i just add that the  person who sent me this is my brother in law who is himself a muslim. he is outraged that it appears his religeon is being forced upon peolpe.
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« Reply #2 on: 07 July 2008, 20:42:02 »

They certainly should not be punished! Their fundamental human rights have been broken by a right to choice and freeddom.

I would be looking to seek compensation and to shake up the school. Any forced religion is a dangerous timebomb.
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« Reply #3 on: 07 July 2008, 20:42:25 »

If anyone tried to punish me for not engaging in muslim prayer, I'd tell them Foxtrot Oscar.... what I do and believe is my choice.

I believe strongly in respecting diversity BUT that is out of order - if it was my kids I'd be seeking legal advise.
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« Reply #4 on: 07 July 2008, 20:42:46 »

this should be shown in classrooms  ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwOL4rB-go
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« Reply #5 on: 07 July 2008, 20:43:36 »

holy poo (no pun intended) thats not far from where I come from!

All I can say is that if the shoe were on the other foot the head teacher would have already resigned!
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« Reply #6 on: 07 July 2008, 20:43:57 »

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may i just add that the  person who sent me this is my brother in law who is himself a muslim. he is outraged that it appears his religeon is being forced upon peolpe.



Again... society has reaced the level where we do not see individuals. we are now judged as cohorts... this in itself is a sign of change... which breeds ignorance to others as individulas.
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« Reply #7 on: 07 July 2008, 20:44:13 »

This is England. Incidents like this make me mad, especially when religion is the root cause of most of the world's troubles, Israel, N.Ireland, Iraq, etc etc. If we are to be politically correct pupils should have the option to walk out and return to class when the praying ( to any God ) is over. Religion should be a choice not a compulsion. I'm a Catholic and choose to be, all pupils should be enlightened about other beliefs but not forced to do it.
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« Reply #8 on: 07 July 2008, 20:46:44 »

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this should be shown in classrooms  ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1uwOL4rB-go

f*ckin hilarious. love jeff dunham, got most of his dvd's  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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« Reply #9 on: 07 July 2008, 20:49:40 »

I always opted out of RE at school. I would rather express my beliefs on a personal level: that being that when I am asked for my religion that I state Science. Not that science knows all, but it certainly gets my approval as a basis of faith.

What I am aying is each to their own... why cant peps just live and let live?! It annoys me dealing with the consequences of changing society with some of the poor folk I have come across over the years.
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« Reply #10 on: 07 July 2008, 20:51:05 »

i have no religious belief yet i respect every person's belief in their chosen religion, surely THAT is what should be taught at school!!
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« Reply #11 on: 07 July 2008, 20:52:23 »

   Well, we've only brought it upon ourselves, years of giving in to one and all, what do we expect :(.

  And James, why should the thought of punishment make you want to dance with a bloke called Oscar :o ;D ;D.
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« Reply #12 on: 07 July 2008, 20:53:27 »

Religion & education are & should be seperate issues & never the twain should meet. These two pupils being excluded is rather' outrageous! >:( ::)
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« Reply #13 on: 07 July 2008, 20:54:33 »

Just think how the sh1t would fly if a muslim was forced to attend a synagogue or "pray" in a catholic church  ...

Total hypocrisy and stupidity
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« Reply #14 on: 07 July 2008, 20:57:17 »

Just remind me exactly which country we live in  :-/ :-/ >:( >:(
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