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Re: Channel Tunnel disruption
« Reply #30 on: 26 July 2015, 19:48:00 »

Seems to me-but what do I know?-that much like the drug problem we are tackling the migrant problem from the wrong end.We are spending I don't know how much trying to stop it at the end rather than tackling the problem at source.Surely if the money were spent to make where they're coming from a better place to be than it is then they'd have no great reason to leave in the first place.Simplistic I know what with corruption and the like but could it not be do-able?
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Re: Channel Tunnel disruption
« Reply #31 on: 26 July 2015, 20:02:56 »

Seems to me-but what do I know?-that much like the drug problem we are tackling the migrant problem from the wrong end.We are spending I don't know how much trying to stop it at the end rather than tackling the problem at source.Surely if the money were spent to make where they're coming from a better place to be than it is then they'd have no great reason to leave in the first place.Simplistic I know what with corruption and the like but could it not be do-able?

Ah yes what we need is a huge ring fenced foreign aid budget that is protected by law!  ::)
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Re: Channel Tunnel disruption
« Reply #32 on: 26 July 2015, 20:58:53 »

I have used the tunnel a few times , £25 day return andf forgot to go back. Great service.

Haven't seen a single ethical solution to the migrant problem behind the chunnel security problems and the enormous cost to Britain :( :(
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Re: Channel Tunnel disruption
« Reply #33 on: 26 July 2015, 21:19:41 »

Seems to me-but what do I know?-that much like the drug problem we are tackling the migrant problem from the wrong end.We are spending I don't know how much trying to stop it at the end rather than tackling the problem at source.Surely if the money were spent to make where they're coming from a better place to be than it is then they'd have no great reason to leave in the first place.Simplistic I know what with corruption and the like but could it not be do-able?
The problems in the country's,were the immigrants are coming from is religion and tribal, its been going on for hundreds of years, and will take more than money to sort it.
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Re: Channel Tunnel disruption
« Reply #34 on: 26 July 2015, 21:27:29 »

Seems to me-but what do I know?-that much like the drug problem we are tackling the migrant problem from the wrong end.We are spending I don't know how much trying to stop it at the end rather than tackling the problem at source.Surely if the money were spent to make where they're coming from a better place to be than it is then they'd have no great reason to leave in the first place.Simplistic I know what with corruption and the like but could it not be do-able?

Ah yes what we need is a huge ring fenced foreign aid budget that is protected by law!  ::)

No - what we need are machine guns at tunnel entrance - only have to shoot a few to put the rest off trying ;)  PC or what
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« Reply #35 on: 26 July 2015, 21:46:44 »

Seems to me-but what do I know?-that much like the drug problem we are tackling the migrant problem from the wrong end.We are spending I don't know how much trying to stop it at the end rather than tackling the problem at source.Surely if the money were spent to make where they're coming from a better place to be than it is then they'd have no great reason to leave in the first place.Simplistic I know what with corruption and the like but could it not be do-able?

Ah yes what we need is a huge ring fenced foreign aid budget that is protected by law!  ::)

No - what we need are machine guns at tunnel entrance - only have to shoot a few to put the rest off trying ;)  PC or what
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Re: Channel Tunnel disruption
« Reply #36 on: 26 July 2015, 23:27:16 »



No - what we need are machine guns at tunnel entrance - only have to shoot a few to put the rest off trying ;)  PC or what




Considering where they come from, and what they have to do get to to/through the tunnel, we'd only have to shoot all of them. That isn't really an option.


But, the softly softly approach we're taking at the moment isn't working, so a more effective solution is required. As this is an EU wide issue, it should be sorted at an EU level by enforcing the EU's external borders. And that is why we're all really screwed, as the EU is incapable off achieving that. It's just another entry on the list.
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Re: Channel Tunnel disruption
« Reply #37 on: 27 July 2015, 23:48:35 »

Many are coming via Libya. They used to have an effective tyrant in charge, like Iraq had as well. But then nameless governments decided it would make things better to get rid of the tyrants and replace them with err nothing with the former and a corrupt ineffective democracy with the latter, which created a power vacuum, which was then exploited by Al Qaeda but the US largely destroyed their leadership through drone attacks, so now we have something much more cuddly, PC and benevolent...... ISIS. >:( >:( >:( >:(

There is a very simple lesson, if you are going to topple tyrants then support the country and build democratic institutions for the next generation or two, yes it take 20 to 40 years of assistance, not nothing in the case of Libya or in Iraq 5 years with a hasty total troop withdrawal by a clueless Nobel peace prize winner, who ignored his generals, where he was working to a re-election timetable. :( :( :( :(

Guess what, the generals were right and he was wrong, not once but now twice where they also said not putting boots on the ground would fail as well. The third big fail is on its way where the Taliban are winning again in Afghanistan. :( :( :( :(

And there there is the war in Europe, but the US just might have got this one right at last, by training Ukrainian troops before considering providing them with defensive weapons. :y :y :y :y
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Re: Channel Tunnel disruption
« Reply #38 on: 28 July 2015, 18:39:40 »

After the weekend clearing of the backlog, it,s all kicked off again. M20 is once again a bloody great car park. Ho hum.
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Re: Channel Tunnel disruption
« Reply #39 on: 28 July 2015, 20:50:22 »

And now it seems we may be faced with an influx of black Americans seeking asylum because of the recent police v black American problems,deaths during arrests/whilst in custody etc.
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« Reply #40 on: 28 July 2015, 21:40:25 »

And now it seems we may be faced with an influx of black Americans seeking asylum because of the recent police v black American problems,deaths during arrests/whilst in custody etc.
At least they're generally well educted and a positive influence on society... Besides that would free up some space for us to move there :D
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« Reply #41 on: 28 July 2015, 21:44:03 »

And now it seems we may be faced with an influx of black Americans seeking asylum because of the recent police v black American problems,deaths during arrests/whilst in custody etc.
At least they're generally well educted and a positive influence on society... Besides that would free up some space for us to move there :D

There's loads of space there anyway!  :y
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Re: Channel Tunnel disruption
« Reply #42 on: 29 July 2015, 09:33:37 »

Anyone got recent experience of crossing to France via the Tunnel during 'operation stack'? Are cars equally affected as trucks? We booked our crossings and accommodation in Folkestone a year ago. Maybe we should also/instead cross by DFDS from Dover to Dunkirk?

Our timings are:
Stay in Folkestone Tuesday 25
Tunnel to Calais Wednesday  26 AM
Stay in St Omer Monday 31
Tunnel to UK Tuesday 01 AM
(Also booked ferry back from Dunkirk Tuesday 01 AM)
3 wedges travelling together
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Re: Channel Tunnel disruption
« Reply #43 on: 29 July 2015, 10:03:32 »

Anyone got recent experience of crossing to France via the Tunnel during 'operation stack'? Are cars equally affected as trucks? We booked our crossings and accommodation in Folkestone a year ago. Maybe we should also/instead cross by DFDS from Dover to Dunkirk?

Our timings are:
Stay in Folkestone Tuesday 25
Tunnel to Calais Wednesday  26 AM
Stay in St Omer Monday 31
Tunnel to UK Tuesday 01 AM
(Also booked ferry back from Dunkirk Tuesday 01 AM)
3 wedges travelling together

You would be best contacting them for advice. What I can say is that there will be severe traffic and delays getting onto the train.
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Re: Channel Tunnel disruption
« Reply #44 on: 29 July 2015, 10:04:41 »

Dunkirk both ways or Newhaven Dieppe if it's running and the timings work ;)
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