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Re: Explosion
« Reply #15 on: 13 August 2015, 23:14:00 »

Torpedos can use H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide) as a propellent. Is is a light, energy dense fuel that doesn't need an external oxygen supply. Great for propelling torpedoes at high speed for reasonable distances. However, it has a downside which is why the RN stopped using it in the 1950's after an accident and other Western navy's followed suit. If it leaks and comes into contact with copper, things get very interesting, very fast, as the Russians found out on their submarine Kursk. :o :o :o :o

The intense heat from a propellent fire in a training torpedo in the torpedo room then set off the explosive warheads in other torpedos stored in their racks, only a handful behind the much thicker nuclear containment bulkhead survived the subsequent explosion. :o :o :o :o

Not saying that is what happened here, but it might of done. ::) ::) ::) Where's Cem when you need a good conspiracy theory. ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Explosion
« Reply #16 on: 14 August 2015, 09:35:20 »

Torpedos can use H2O2 (hydrogen peroxide) as a propellent. Is is a light, energy dense fuel that doesn't need an external oxygen supply. Great for propelling torpedoes at high speed for reasonable distances. However, it has a downside which is why the RN stopped using it in the 1950's after an accident and other Western navy's followed suit. If it leaks and comes into contact with copper, things get very interesting, very fast, as the Russians found out on their submarine Kursk. :o :o :o :o

The intense heat from a propellent fire in a training torpedo in the torpedo room then set off the explosive warheads in other torpedos stored in their racks, only a handful behind the much thicker nuclear containment bulkhead survived the subsequent explosion. :o :o :o :o

Not saying that is what happened here, but it might of done. ::) ::) ::) Where's Cem when you need a good conspiracy theory. ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D


As the old chemists' joke goes-

"two scientists walk into a scientists bar. The first asks the barman for a glass of H20. The second says I'll have a glass of H20 too. The second man dies"

I of course use the word 'joke' loosely here.  :y
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Re: Explosion
« Reply #17 on: 14 August 2015, 10:14:01 »

Wow how far away are theses cars from the explosion :o :o


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Re: Explosion
« Reply #18 on: 14 August 2015, 11:45:30 »

I smiled at the official Chinese response. Those that were responsible will be dealt with severely.

There was a clip on Tv this morning atht showed a wrecked car being driven ! Under normal circumstances that would have been breaking about a zillion laws. I wonder when normality (if ever) will return for the thousands affected by the explosion. I bet the state won't do much to help.
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Re: Explosion
« Reply #19 on: 14 August 2015, 12:09:44 »

I smiled at the official Chinese response. Those that were responsible will be dealt with severelydisappear quietly.
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« Reply #20 on: 14 August 2015, 13:35:08 »

Apparently, it wouldn't have been half as bad if the firefighters who initially attended hadn't squirted water on it.
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Re: Explosion
« Reply #21 on: 14 August 2015, 17:54:56 »

The images they showed on the news yesterday morning were by someone filming the second explosion on their phone from an apartment,fireball looked huge and it took 8 seconds for blast wave to get to apartment block where they were filming from.
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Re: Explosion
« Reply #22 on: 14 August 2015, 19:42:57 »

I smiled at the official Chinese response. Those that were responsible will be dealt with severely.

There was a clip on Tv this morning atht showed a wrecked car being driven ! Under normal circumstances that would have been breaking about a zillion laws. I wonder when normality (if ever) will return for the thousands affected by the explosion. I bet the state won't do much to help.

That is official Chinese parlance for a bullet in the back of the head and your next of kin getting an invoice for the cost of the bullet. :o :o :o
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Re: Explosion
« Reply #23 on: 14 August 2015, 22:38:50 »

I smiled at the official Chinese response. Those that were responsible will be dealt with severely.

There was a clip on Tv this morning atht showed a wrecked car being driven ! Under normal circumstances that would have been breaking about a zillion laws. I wonder when normality (if ever) will return for the thousands affected by the explosion. I bet the state won't do much to help.

That is official Chinese parlance for a bullet in the back of the head and your next of kin getting an invoice for the cost of the bullet. :o :o :o

.. assuming they're not already in low earth orbit, of course.
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Re: Explosion
« Reply #24 on: 15 August 2015, 23:59:39 »

Unconfirmed reports of 1400 dead and 700 missing. :'( From the size of the explosion that would not surprise me as there is not only the heat effect, but also the blast wave and that was followed by a toxic gas cloud. :( :( :( :(

Looking at a pollution map for China today and they have horrendous probems with an estimated 400 people dying a day from air pollution alone. :o :o :o :o
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Re: Explosion
« Reply #25 on: 16 August 2015, 00:11:18 »

Video of explosion from two blocks away, it is big, I mean BIG, I mean really BIG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q04fV4j7A1w&feature=youtu.be
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Re: Explosion
« Reply #26 on: 16 August 2015, 00:16:01 »

Video of explosion from two blocks away, it is big, I mean BIG, I mean really BIG.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q04fV4j7A1w&feature=youtu.be

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Re: Explosion
« Reply #27 on: 16 August 2015, 00:21:18 »

There's something very wrong about the reactions on that video .. wetting themselves with excitement as people no doubt die in a most horrible manner.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3199058/China-orders-evacuation-residents-two-mile-radius-Tianjin-blast-site-police-confirm-area-contaminated-deadly-CYANIDE.html

Yes I know the article is on the DM, no I can't be bothered to go and find a more reputable source. But just look at the first and second picture and realise the scale - those things that look like matchboxes scattered across the ground are shipping containers.

Then look at the size of the hole left in the ground...
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« Reply #28 on: 16 August 2015, 05:07:49 »

That is truly awesome  :o

Just as you think one bang was quite impressive, the subsequent one is exponentially bigger...

It's a miracle that more people weren't killed, even if everyone missing is presumed dead :-\
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Re: Explosion
« Reply #29 on: 16 August 2015, 18:54:23 »

People tend to think of explosions as what they see in Hollywood films, which use slow burning black powder and kerosene for the fireball. All very slow and contained for the simple reason to 'look good' while keeping safe all those working on the set. Whereas real explosive material is in a rather different league, especially modern explosives. :o :o :o :o
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