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Still crashing a bit at the back
« on: 19 August 2015, 08:48:25 »

So I replaced the rear shock bushes, with nice new ones on the 2.2 - Does appear to have helped things, not as bad as it was.

But it does still knock a bit from the back over rough roads, more so than it used to I feel  :-\ Take the 3.2 down same bit of road it's noticeably more quiet, less knocking/crashing about from the rear.

Both have standard GM shocks on the back and standard springs.

Rear donut bushes?  :-\ They are original to the car (15 years & 181k)
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Re: Still crashing a bit at the back
« Reply #1 on: 19 August 2015, 10:56:02 »

Tyre pressures, diff mounts, rear subframe bushes :-\ And don't forget that inspite of 17" wheels, the Elite is softer sprung and with self levelling, the ride height is much more consistent even when loaded.   :y
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Re: Still crashing a bit at the back
« Reply #2 on: 19 August 2015, 11:00:04 »

Tyre pressures, diff mounts, rear subframe bushes :-\ And don't forget that inspite of 17" wheels, the Elite is softer sprung and with self levelling, the ride height is much more consistent even when loaded.   :y

Pressures - Checked recently, these Kumo's on CDX alloys have been excellent holding pressure. Popped them up from 29 to usual 31.

Diff Mounts - Would need to check these, last off maybe a year ago for full inspection of springs.

Subframe bushes - Same as rear donut?  :-\

No SL kit left on the 3.2  :y (apart from the pump in the engine bay)
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Re: Still crashing a bit at the back
« Reply #3 on: 19 August 2015, 11:01:37 »

Yes re subframe bushes :y

What springs on the 3.2? if still standard Elite, then that's the key...
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Re: Still crashing a bit at the back
« Reply #4 on: 19 August 2015, 11:05:05 »

Yes re subframe bushes :y

What springs on the 3.2? if still standard Elite, then that's the key...

Errr not actually sure.  :-[ I had some in the garage that we slapped on, never sure if they were SL or not. But the 3.2 does tend to sit rather low at the back, so maybe has softer SL springs but with standard shocks.

That said, it's become more noticable in the last 3 months or so on the 2.2, it never knocked about as much as it does now. Also it's starting to use more oil  :'(

Still silky smooth on good roads, just rough roads it's not as quite as it used to be.  :-\
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« Reply #5 on: 19 August 2015, 11:09:43 »

Plod saloon springs will pick up the 3.2 a bit :y

As for the 2.2, does it feel disconnected if you chuck it around? If yes, then startv with the subframe bushes then the rear diff mounts :y
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Re: Still crashing a bit at the back
« Reply #6 on: 19 August 2015, 11:11:35 »

I don't really chuck it around, need little fatty to give it a go. But given how he likes things setup, I don't think he will be complementary about my trusty steed running on standard running gear that is fairly old  ::)  ;D
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Re: Still crashing a bit at the back
« Reply #8 on: 19 August 2015, 11:29:19 »

Fatty admins driving style is kind of irrelevant  ::) the idea isn't to rag the car to an inch of it's life, but rather to drive it briskly along a twisty bit of road or throw it into a fast roundabout... that half one on the A322? coming south from Bracknell where the left lane goes off and the rightlane carries on south towards Frimley... might be near Sandown :-\ (I can picture it clearly, but not a hundred percent about the road names)... put it through that southbound section in the right hand lane at the limit and see how the car feels.

A well sorted Omega can hypothetically handle it well over the posted limit without getting out of shape...

The basic idea is to load the suspension up first one way then the other in quick succession and see how it feels... roll is acceptable, looseness or vagueness is not... doesn't need to be at speed necessarily, but you do need to get the weight to shift, so don't be delicate ;)
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Re: Still crashing a bit at the back
« Reply #10 on: 19 August 2015, 11:40:00 »

Poly's not available?
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Re: Still crashing a bit at the back
« Reply #11 on: 19 August 2015, 11:42:37 »

Poly's not available?
They are, but at a Tunnie bashing £99.00...

http://www.monkfishperformance.co.uk/rear-end-pac--monaro-models-with-harrop-diff-cover_p23023672.htm

Actually they have gone up 95p, but still cheaper than Pedders ;)
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Re: Still crashing a bit at the back
« Reply #13 on: 19 August 2015, 19:10:27 »

Double check you haven't broken a spring. The roads are shocking.
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Re: Still crashing a bit at the back
« Reply #14 on: 19 August 2015, 19:11:34 »

And last time I proper thrashed that 2.2 was when I was trying (and failed) to keep that TVR honest the day we picked up that purple elite shed...
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