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Dead 2.2 DTI Elite Saloon
« on: 13 October 2015, 13:56:37 »

Hi,

After cleaning out the inlet manifold to try to cure an EGR code problem, and subsequent poor starting, I now have a possible bent conrod in the engine.

My diesel specialist mate tells me it'll be cheaper to put another engine in than rebuild it, but, of course, Y22DTHs are like hen's teeth. I just can't find one.

Therefore, my beloved Omega is likely heading for the great car park in the sky unless someone has an idea or a good engine?

I've read that someone put a Y22DTR from a Vectra in their car, but information is scant. Has anyone else done this? It seems some things swap over ok, but I'm loathe to go down this route if it's a headache because I'd be paying labour rates, not doing it myself.

Thanks for any help / suggestions / low mileage engines with warranties.  :y


Cheers,

Graham
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Re: Dead 2.2 DTI Elite Saloon
« Reply #1 on: 13 October 2015, 14:45:10 »

How the hell did you bend the rod?

Plus, I would expect to see crank case damage if it was bent?
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Re: Dead 2.2 DTI Elite Saloon
« Reply #2 on: 13 October 2015, 15:05:32 »

Hi,

After cleaning out the inlet manifold to try to cure an EGR code problem, and subsequent poor starting, I now have a possible bent conrod in the engine.

My diesel specialist mate tells me it'll be cheaper to put another engine in than rebuild it, but, of course, Y22DTHs are like hen's teeth. I just can't find one.

Therefore, my beloved Omega is likely heading for the great car park in the sky unless someone has an idea or a good engine?

I've read that someone put a Y22DTR from a Vectra in their car, but information is scant. Has anyone else done this? It seems some things swap over ok, but I'm loathe to go down this route if it's a headache because I'd be paying labour rates, not doing it myself.

Thanks for any help / suggestions / low mileage engines with warranties.  :y


Cheers,

Graham

Could be worth keeping an eye on this

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vauxhall-Omega-Turbo-Diesel-Estate-Spares-or-Repair-/361405208171?hash=item54256dd66b
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Re: Dead 2.2 DTI Elite Saloon
« Reply #3 on: 13 October 2015, 16:12:37 »

How the hell did you bend the rod?

Plus, I would expect to see crank case damage if it was bent?

Easy start. I didn't know that it could cause damage. I'm renovating my house and didn't have any time to think or research.

My brother did the inlet manifold, cranked it and cranked it, got it started but only ran it for a couple of minutes afterwards, meaning it didn't clear out the air from the fuel system. It then just didn't want to start without minutes and minutes of cranking, running down battery which then needed to be charged for another go. In the end I had to start it with easy start into the inlet manifold. Several days ofh that and then white smoke and nasty noises from the engine.
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Re: Dead 2.2 DTI Elite Saloon
« Reply #4 on: 13 October 2015, 19:48:19 »

Rearrange the following phrase...

So told you we


A clear reminder to others of the perils of starting snake oil :'(
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Re: Dead 2.2 DTI Elite Saloon
« Reply #5 on: 13 October 2015, 20:05:09 »

If the fuel pump on the goosed engine is working it will go some way towards buying a replacement, last known good one I sold went for £140
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Re: Dead 2.2 DTI Elite Saloon
« Reply #6 on: 13 October 2015, 20:14:26 »

If the fuel pump on the goosed engine is working it will go some way towards buying a replacement, last known good one I sold went for £140
Another way to look at that is a dti with a fooked pump is peanuts, thereby making one good car out of two busted ones :y
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Re: Dead 2.2 DTI Elite Saloon
« Reply #7 on: 14 October 2015, 12:47:22 »

I've now bought a £200 Picasso with a broken engine mounting as a run around. It's beige  :'(

I'll probably need to sell the Omega, or scrap it, which is a big shame as I always wanted an Omega and it's been pretty reliable all these years, apart from going through tyres and wishbones. I'm trying not to be too emotional about it. Made some good memories in that car. Driving sideways in the snow in Scotland, and doughnuts on a Welsh beach, with my mum on oxygen grinning in the back, to name two.

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Re: Dead 2.2 DTI Elite Saloon
« Reply #8 on: 14 October 2015, 15:32:10 »

Sadly you don't have enough posts to sell it via here, 250 minimum, I'd say ebay may be your best bet as it'll be worth peanuts as scrap at the moment £50 ish
A working fuel pump will be worth summat, as per my previous suggestion ::)
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« Reply #9 on: 30 April 2016, 09:19:04 »

Seeing as local breakers will pay no more than £40-50 for a complete car, £200 sounds like a good offer...
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Re: Dead 2.2 DTI Elite Saloon
« Reply #10 on: 30 April 2016, 14:50:37 »

How the hell did you bend the rod?

Plus, I would expect to see crank case damage if it was bent?

Easy start. I didn't know that it could cause damage. I'm renovating my house and didn't have any time to think or research.

My brother did the inlet manifold, cranked it and cranked it, got it started but only ran it for a couple of minutes afterwards, meaning it didn't clear out the air from the fuel system. It then just didn't want to start without minutes and minutes of cranking, running down battery which then needed to be charged for another go. In the end I had to start it with easy start into the inlet manifold. Several days ofh that and then white smoke and nasty noises from the engine.
Suspect you've shagged the pump by cranking it dry. On this pump type, cranking it dry causes extreme mechanical wear (diesel is the lubrication) and electronic ECU failure (diesel is the cooling agent).
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Re: Dead 2.2 DTI Elite Saloon
« Reply #11 on: 01 May 2016, 20:27:11 »

How the hell did you bend the rod?

Plus, I would expect to see crank case damage if it was bent?

Easy start. I didn't know that it could cause damage. I'm renovating my house and didn't have any time to think or research.

My brother did the inlet manifold, cranked it and cranked it, got it started but only ran it for a couple of minutes afterwards, meaning it didn't clear out the air from the fuel system. It then just didn't want to start without minutes and minutes of cranking, running down battery which then needed to be charged for another go. In the end I had to start it with easy start into the inlet manifold. Several days ofh that and then white smoke and nasty noises from the engine.
Suspect you've shagged the pump by cranking it dry. On this pump type, cranking it dry causes extreme mechanical wear (diesel is the lubrication) and electronic ECU failure (diesel is the cooling agent).
  when I cleaned the intake on mine I was pleased a previous owner had installed a priming pump after the fuel filter, so I cranked for a few seconds then had a pump. I needed a spare battery stood by tov boost mine but after approx. 8-12 attempts it fired up.
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