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[Varche]

Cameron.

Please instruct the media to stop the endless special News on Paris .Just playing into their hands.

Spell out to the parents of Jihadists that they risk being deported too and their passports revoking.

Close places of worship that give succour to terrorists.

[Steve B]

Cameron.

Please instruct the media to stop the endless special News on Paris .Just playing into their hands.

Spell out to the parents of Jihadists that they risk being deported too and their passports revoking.

Close places of worship that give succour to terrorists.

I find Sky feed off it and turn it into a comic book Theme.
Its like in there world, "This is all that is happening in the world"

[2boxerdogs]

Cameron.

Please instruct the media to stop the endless special News on Paris .Just playing into their hands.

Spell out to the parents of Jihadists that they risk being deported too and their passports revoking.

Close places of worship that give succour to terrorists.

If only someone in power had the balls to do this .

[Lagondanet]

My son (21) is in Paris until next summer. He was not in this area on Friday evening.

I watched a lot of 'news' over the weekend which was very repetitive and almost a 'show' at times, but it was good to see and hear some more measured reporting and discussion too.
What to do? Who knows? It might as some say already be too late.

Our security forces do a great job protecting us and should be given every resource and power they need to do so. We face similar risks to those in Paris and other European countries. Fortunately we are an island and not a member of Shengen which helps. Shengen is broken and the external EEC borders open to all. The Continent is awash with weapons.

Border controls need to be imposed everywhere. We should not give away our citizenship like sweets. Benefits should be earned. There should be consequences for anyone travelling to Syria in support of ISIS who tries to come back. There should be consequences for those who support ISIS, who preach division etc. There has to be a limit to freedom of speech IMHO. With rights come responsibilities.

Vive La France!




 

[SteveAvfc.]

This clears it all up in a nutshell

Apologies for the long post but I think I've finally figured out what is happening in the Middle East:

President Assad (who is bad) is a nasty guy who got so nasty his people rebelled and the Rebels (who are good) started winning (Hurrah!). But then some of the rebels turned a bit nasty and are now called Islamic State ( who are definitely bad!) and some continued to support democracy (who are still good.)

So the Americans (who are good) started bombing Islamic State (who are bad) and giving arms to the Syrian Rebels (who are good) so they could fight Assad (who is still bad) which was good.

By the way, there is a breakaway state in the north run by the Kurds who want to fight IS ( which is a good thing ) but the Turkish authorities think they are bad, so we have to say they are bad whilst secretly thinking they're good and giving them guns to fight IS (which is good) but that is another matter.

Getting back to Syria.

So President Putin ( who is bad, cos he invaded Crimea and the Ukraine and killed lots of folks including that nice Russian man in London with polonium poisoned sushi ) has decided to back Assad (who is still bad) by attacking IS (who are also bad) which is sort of a good thing?

But Putin ( still bad ) thinks the Syrian Rebels (who are good) are also bad, and so he bombs them too, much to the annoyance of the Americans (who are good) who are busy backing and arming the rebels (who are also good).

Now Iran (who used to be bad, but now they have agreed not to build any nuclear weapons and bomb Israel are now good) are going to provide ground troops to support Assad (still bad) as are the Russians (bad) who now have ground troops and aircraft in Syria.

So a Coalition of Assad (still bad) Putin (extra bad) and the Iranians (good, but in a bad sort of way) are going to attack IS (who are bad) which is a good thing, but also the Syrian Rebels (who are good) which is bad.

Now the British (obviously good, except some freak called Corbyn who, incidentally wears a corduroy jacket, which is dead give away as that's never good) and the Americans (also good) cannot attack Assad (still bad) for fear of upsetting Putin (bad) and Iran (good / bad) and now they have to accept that Assad might not be that bad after all compared to IS (who are super bad).

So Assad (bad) is now probably good, being better than IS (but let’s face it, drinking your own wee is better than IS so no real choice there) and since Putin and Iran are also fighting IS that may now make them Good. America (still Good) will find it hard to arm a group of rebels being attacked by the Russians for fear of upsetting Mr Putin (now good) and that nice mad Ayatollah in Iran (also Good) and so they may be forced to say that the Rebels are now Bad, or at the very least abandon them to their fate. This will lead most of them to flee to Turkey and on to Europe or join IS (still the only constantly bad group).

To Sunni Muslims, an attack by Shia Muslims (Assad and Iran) backed by Russians will be seen as something of a Holy War, and the ranks of IS will now be seen by the Sunnis as the only Jihadis fighting in the Holy War and hence many Muslims will now see IS as Good (Doh!)

Sunni Muslims will also see the lack of action by Britain and America in support of their Sunni rebel brothers as something of a betrayal (mmmm... might have a point) and hence we will be seen as Bad.

So now we have America (now bad) and Britain (also bad) providing limited support to Sunni Rebels (bad) many of whom are looking to IS (Good / bad) for support against Assad (now good) who, along with Iran (also Good) and Putin (also, now, unbelievably, Good) are attempting to retake the country Assad used to run before all this started?

I hope that clears all this up for you.

[Migalot]

That Corbyn idiot has told Laura Kuenssberg that anti-terror police should not operate a shoot-to-kill policy on British streets in the event of a terror attack here.

"I say, old man. Yes, you with the suicide belt and Kalashnikov. You're being very naughty shooting people! Just put the gun down and we'll have chat. Have your human rights been infringed? OK, I understand that and we'll arrange your compensation as soon as you take off the suici.................."

Humour aside, Corbyn is both deranged and dangerous, IMHO. 

[STEMO]

Jeremy Corbyn, or Jihadi Jez as sky called him.

[Entwood]

For all the pontificating and bluster both here and on the so-called "media" .. who want to make the news not report it .. may I strongly suggest the reading of this item .. it's a tad long but extremely worthwhile, and hopefully will make some think a little more .....

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/03/what-isis-really-wants/384980

[BazaJT]

More gunfire in the Saint Denis area of Paris this morning.Police saying this isn't another attack but a result of a police raid as they're looking for the mastermind behind the recent Paris attacks.

[zirk]

More gunfire in the Saint Denis area of Paris this morning.Police saying this isn't another attack but a result of a police raid as they're looking for the mastermind behind the recent Paris attacks.

Yea, and one of them has blown themselves up, hopefully the Police / Raiders are all ok. 

[STEMO]

More gunfire in the Saint Denis area of Paris this morning.Police saying this isn't another attack but a result of a police raid as they're looking for the mastermind behind the recent Paris attacks.

Mastermind? 

[BazaJT]

Mastermind was the term used in the news item,not my own term.Hopefully any taken alive will be questioned[with due respect for their human rights obviously ]to gain any possible information that could be of further use.Other than that France used to have[does it still?]a neat little gizmo that was very popular in the late 1700's that they could perhaps bring out of retirement?

[Sir Tigger KC]

Mastermind was the term used in the news item,not my own term.Hopefully any taken alive will be questioned[with due respect for their human rights obviously ]to gain any possible information that could be of further use.Other than that France used to have[does it still?]a neat little gizmo that was very popular in the late 1700's that they could perhaps bring out of retirement?

That'd be against EU law as it'd breach their 'uman rights. 

[BazaJT]

That I think is a big part of the trouble we're fighting to rules and they aren't Sooner or later if we're going to make progress on this we're going to have to get down and dirty

[STEMO]

I was watching a news story about the quarter of Brussels where all the Muslims live, a hotbed of radicalisation and extremism apparently. Yet they are just left to get on with it, free from interference. Sheesh......