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Re: Won't be going back to WIM... (tyre advice, chaps?)
« Reply #45 on: 06 January 2016, 18:38:34 »

Therefore my question is....(get there in the end)...... can you get tyres with outside/inside marks that are also directional? I presume not as theyd then have to dictate which side it was. but im bored enough to ask your thoughts  ;D
Most definitely yes. Including the OPs GY Eagle F1 A2

Are you sure Senor TB? Looking on a close up of said tyre I can not see directional arrows, but I can see the outside mark......
Oooooh, I'd have to go and check now. Think I still have one in the garage.
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Re: Won't be going back to WIM... (tyre advice, chaps?)
« Reply #46 on: 06 January 2016, 18:41:14 »

Therefore my question is....(get there in the end)...... can you get tyres with outside/inside marks that are also directional? I presume not as theyd then have to dictate which side it was. but im bored enough to ask your thoughts  ;D
Most definitely yes. Including the OPs GY Eagle F1 A2

Are you sure Senor TB? Looking on a close up of said tyre I can not see directional arrows, but I can see the outside mark......
Oooooh, I'd have to go and check now. Think I still have one in the garage.

just a Google image check would have sufficed  ::) ;D

ps, not arguing.... just curious as a relative newby tyre fitter (well 12 months so not too ''newb-ish'')

going on the tyres we see its either 'outside' marked or arrowed. if you had both then wouldn't you need to specify which tyre went on which side of the car (if I'm making any sense at all  ::))
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Re: Won't be going back to WIM... (tyre advice, chaps?)
« Reply #47 on: 06 January 2016, 18:46:12 »

going on the tyres we see its either 'outside' marked or arrowed. if you had both then wouldn't you need to specify which tyre went on which side of the car (if I'm making any sense at all  ::))
Yes. This is quite common. Hence on many larger tyre sizes (often more likely to be a directional, assymetrical tyre), you can't swap wheels left to right to diagnose pulls.
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« Reply #48 on: 06 January 2016, 18:48:56 »

Therefore my question is....(get there in the end)...... can you get tyres with outside/inside marks that are also directional? I presume not as theyd then have to dictate which side it was. but im bored enough to ask your thoughts  ;D
Most definitely yes. Including the OPs GY Eagle F1 A2

Are you sure Senor TB? Looking on a close up of said tyre I can not see directional arrows, but I can see the outside mark......
Oooooh, I'd have to go and check now. Think I still have one in the garage.

just a Google image check would have sufficed  ::) ;D

ps, not arguing.... just curious as a relative newby tyre fitter (well 12 months so not too ''newb-ish'')

going on the tyres we see its either 'outside' marked or arrowed. if you had both then wouldn't you need to specify which tyre went on which side of the car (if I'm making any sense at all  ::))
Hang on a fickin minute here. Any tyre can go on any side of a car.... :P
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Re: Won't be going back to WIM... (tyre advice, chaps?)
« Reply #49 on: 06 January 2016, 18:49:16 »

going on the tyres we see its either 'outside' marked or arrowed. if you had both then wouldn't you need to specify which tyre went on which side of the car (if I'm making any sense at all  ::))
Yes. This is quite common. Hence on many larger tyre sizes (often more likely to be a directional, assymetrical tyre), you can't swap wheels left to right to diagnose pulls.

Yeah I get what you mean. I'm just struggling to put what I mean in to words correctly  :-[
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Re: Won't be going back to WIM... (tyre advice, chaps?)
« Reply #50 on: 06 January 2016, 18:49:56 »

Hang on a fickin minute here. Any tyre can go on any side of a car.... :P
Not if its directional and assymetrical :)
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Re: Won't be going back to WIM... (tyre advice, chaps?)
« Reply #51 on: 06 January 2016, 18:50:24 »

Hang on a fickin minute here. Any tyre can go on any side of a car.... :P
Not if its directional and assymetrical :)
Well, it "can", but won't work very well ;D
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« Reply #52 on: 06 January 2016, 18:51:57 »

Hang on a fickin minute here. Any tyre can go on any side of a car.... :P
Not if its directional and assymetrical :)
It has either a directional arrow or is marked 'outside' and 'inside'. If that's wrong, then I've never seen both.
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Re: Won't be going back to WIM... (tyre advice, chaps?)
« Reply #54 on: 06 January 2016, 18:56:00 »

Hang on a fickin minute here. Any tyre can go on any side of a car.... :P
Not if its directional and assymetrical :)
It has either a directional arrow or is marked 'outside' and 'inside'. If that's wrong, then I've never seen both.
Many are :). As said, generally more so in larger sizes.

Directional often means a "V" style pattern (but not always, in fact less so now than 10yrs ago), thus tends to work only in one direction. Assymentrical means the inside and outside of tyres offer different characteristics, usually with the outerblocks designed for cornering, inner blocks for water dispersion.
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Re: Won't be going back to WIM... (tyre advice, chaps?)
« Reply #55 on: 06 January 2016, 18:57:26 »

Ok, i'll try and put it in as simplest terms as possible (for my own benefit I assure you :))

chap comes in for NSF tyre.

if new tyre has 'outside' marks I obviously mount that on the outside irrespective of whether it's nearside or offside

if the new tyre has directional arrows I have to check that its the nearside, I then mount the tyre so that as I look at the wheel from the front the arrows are going left (to coincide with the direction of that tyre)

IF the tyre had outside marks AND arrows then that tyre I'd have to specify that it's for that particular side......which, when I call the tyre supplier they've never asked me which side it is. therefore my question of ''can you get directional and outside'' on anything?

hope that makes sense....if it doesn't I'm simply going to go to bed early  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Won't be going back to WIM... (tyre advice, chaps?)
« Reply #56 on: 06 January 2016, 18:57:49 »

Hang on a fickin minute here. Any tyre can go on any side of a car.... :P
Not if its directional and assymetrical :)
It has either a directional arrow or is marked 'outside' and 'inside'. If that's wrong, then I've never seen both.
Many are :). As said, generally more so in larger sizes.

Directional often means a "V" style pattern (but not always, in fact less so now than 10yrs ago), thus tends to work only in one direction. Assymentrical means the inside and outside of tyres offer different characteristics, usually with the outerblocks designed for cornering, inner blocks for water dispersion.
Not having it. Any tyre will fit anywhere on a car. Show me different. :P
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Re: Won't be going back to WIM... (tyre advice, chaps?)
« Reply #57 on: 06 January 2016, 18:59:13 »

Ok, i'll try and put it in as simplest terms as possible (for my own benefit I assure you :))

chap comes in for NSF tyre.

if new tyre has 'outside' marks I obviously mount that on the outside irrespective of whether it's nearside or offside

if the new tyre has directional arrows I have to check that its the nearside, I then mount the tyre so that as I look at the wheel from the front the arrows are going left (to coincide with the direction of that tyre)

IF the tyre had outside marks AND arrows then that tyre I'd have to specify that it's for that particular side......which, when I call the tyre supplier they've never asked me which side it is. therefore my question of ''can you get directional and outside'' on anything?

hope that makes sense....if it doesn't I'm simply going to go to bed early  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Re: Won't be going back to WIM... (tyre advice, chaps?)
« Reply #58 on: 06 January 2016, 18:59:56 »

Ok, i'll try and put it in as simplest terms as possible (for my own benefit I assure you :))

chap comes in for NSF tyre.

if new tyre has 'outside' marks I obviously mount that on the outside irrespective of whether it's nearside or offside

if the new tyre has directional arrows I have to check that its the nearside, I then mount the tyre so that as I look at the wheel from the front the arrows are going left (to coincide with the direction of that tyre)

IF the tyre had outside marks AND arrows then that tyre I'd have to specify that it's for that particular side......which, when I call the tyre supplier they've never asked me which side it is. therefore my question of ''can you get directional and outside'' on anything?

hope that makes sense....if it doesn't I'm simply going to go to bed early  ;D ;D ;D ;D
No.

exactly what I thought......until TB came along  ::) ;D ;D
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Re: Won't be going back to WIM... (tyre advice, chaps?)
« Reply #59 on: 06 January 2016, 19:00:37 »

Ok, i'll try and put it in as simplest terms as possible (for my own benefit I assure you :))

chap comes in for NSF tyre.

if new tyre has 'outside' marks I obviously mount that on the outside irrespective of whether it's nearside or offside

if the new tyre has directional arrows I have to check that its the nearside, I then mount the tyre so that as I look at the wheel from the front the arrows are going left (to coincide with the direction of that tyre)

IF the tyre had outside marks AND arrows then that tyre I'd have to specify that it's for that particular side......which, when I call the tyre supplier they've never asked me which side it is. therefore my question of ''can you get directional and outside'' on anything?

hope that makes sense....if it doesn't I'm simply going to go to bed early  ;D ;D ;D ;D
No.

exactly what I thought......until TB came along  ::) ;D ;D
He knows nowt...retard  ;D
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