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[STEMO]

As has been said if they want it the freeloading scumbags will have it.Taking security precautions is of course a very wise move,but how far do you go with such things before you become a virtual prisoner in your own home?

Know what you mean and had the same conversation with my customers on many a occasion.
Imo, decent locks, a good quality alarm and good lighting should do the job 
As said on previous posts, Cctv it great providing the stuff will work in low light conditions 

I wont mention what I did to secure a mates garage door hinges / top hasp and sable last year but i'll tell you that I used ...............

1 x 13amp plug with just one wire into the live.
A wireless remote switch from B&Q.

 

That thought occurs to quite a few people, until they realise that they could be up on a murder charge.

[tigers_gonads]

As has been said if they want it the freeloading scumbags will have it.Taking security precautions is of course a very wise move,but how far do you go with such things before you become a virtual prisoner in your own home?

Know what you mean and had the same conversation with my customers on many a occasion.
Imo, decent locks, a good quality alarm and good lighting should do the job 
As said on previous posts, Cctv it great providing the stuff will work in low light conditions 

I wont mention what I did to secure a mates garage door hinges / top hasp and sable last year but i'll tell you that I used ...............

1 x 13amp plug with just one wire into the live.
A wireless remote switch from B&Q.

 

That thought occurs to quite a few people, until they realise that they could be up on a murder charge.

That weekend, he was propping up the bar in his local when he over heard 2 little scrotes talking about "a little tingle" they had got 
Lets just say that it was sorted there and then 

[STEMO]

He was lucky, then.

[Bigron]

TG, in the interests of safety, make sure that there is a good earth connection under where any miscreant might stand, to ensure full effectiveness of your security "tingle".......

Ron.

[tigers_gonads]

TG, in the interests of safety, make sure that there is a good earth connection under where any miscreant might stand, to ensure full effectiveness of your security "tingle".......

Ron.

Since its largely grass / mud outside the doors, I did (for a second) consider laying some chicken wire in the grass and supplying a discrete earth wire back to the remote controlled socket but as our incontinent fellow OOFer says, it could have led to a murder change 

Given the nature of the return path, I highly doubt the potential reached anything like lethal levels.
In fact, it was probably more along the lines of what the farmers use to coral livestock 

Did the trick though 

[STEMO]

TG, in the interests of safety, make sure that there is a good earth connection under where any miscreant might stand, to ensure full effectiveness of your security "tingle".......

Ron.

Since its largely grass / mud outside the doors, I did (for a second) consider laying some chicken wire in the grass and supplying a discrete earth wire back to the remote controlled socket but as our incontinent fellow OOFer says, it could have led to a murder change 

Given the nature of the return path, I highly doubt the potential reached anything like lethal levels.
In fact, it was probably more along the lines of what the farmers use to coral livestock 

Did the trick though 

I only have incontinence of the arse, must be awful to have it affect your mouth. 

[TheBoy]

A bit after the fact I know but is the house alarmed ?

Yup, after the house was broken into a few years ago.

[tigers_gonads]

A bit after the fact I know but is the house alarmed ?

Yup, after the house was broken into a few years ago.

Depending on what panel was fitted, spare zones ect, is it worth sticking a stand alone wireless duel tech or quad passive in the out building.
Setup as door chime during the day and alarm during the night ?

[TheBoy]

A bit after the fact I know but is the house alarmed ?

Yup, after the house was broken into a few years ago.

Depending on what panel was fitted, spare zones ect, is it worth sticking a stand alone wireless duel tech or quad passive in the out building.
Setup as door chime during the day and alarm during the night ?

That would mean paying ADT an awful lot of money...

[Kevin Wood]

A bit after the fact I know but is the house alarmed ?

Yup, after the house was broken into a few years ago.

Depending on what panel was fitted, spare zones ect, is it worth sticking a stand alone wireless duel tech or quad passive in the out building.
Setup as door chime during the day and alarm during the night ?

That would mean paying ADT an awful lot of money...

Other self.. er.. I mean... alarm companies are available.

[tigers_gonads]

A bit after the fact I know but is the house alarmed ?

Yup, after the house was broken into a few years ago.

Depending on what panel was fitted, spare zones ect, is it worth sticking a stand alone wireless duel tech or quad passive in the out building.
Setup as door chime during the day and alarm during the night ?

That would mean paying ADT an awful lot of money...

Other self.. er.. I mean... alarm companies are available.

If TB can keep this forum running, i'm sure he can tailor design and install a system in his mums house 
Not a fan of ADT's domestic stuff personally and even less a fan of there (at least around here) dickhead so called engineers but the nice glossy adverts on the TV and 99 quid down payment was popular until you read the small print 

Plenty of decent stuff out there,  you also have the option of speech diallers / gsm if they is a problem at the house with the added bonus of not paying stupid amounts for the so called monitoring 
After 24 years in and out of the game, i've even found a wireless system that I trust too 

All depends of TB's mum of course
If she is anything like mine, you cant tell her anything and god help you if you try 

[TheBoy]

Needs to be professionally monitored, as no point it calling her mobile if she's away (plus the wider area is notoriously shite for all mobile networks). I think the insurance have that stipulation as well, although its been a while since the house itself was broken in to, so that might not be a requirement any more. But it gives her piece of mind anyway.

Yes, I'd have no trouble fitting an alarm for her (though not in her house due to her utter daft thing about all wires must be completely hidden), but doesn't meet her needs. So ADT got that one a while back.  And because its monitored and fully managed remotely by them, I can't add in another zone for the garage and outbuildings, they would have to do it.

She might not be so concerned about garage and outbuildings, so might get away with a separate DIY option which I'd happily buy and fit.


Currently looking at CCTV options for my eldest bro's refurbed shop, and there is a lot of interesting kit out there now, and even full IP recording solutions are quite affordable. But as little bro has found out, if the scumbags have cased the joint before, CCTV is useless if they know where the cameras are.

[tigers_gonads]

Needs to be professionally monitored, as no point it calling her mobile if she's away (plus the wider area is notoriously shite for all mobile networks). I think the insurance have that stipulation as well, although its been a while since the house itself was broken in to, so that might not be a requirement any more. But it gives her piece of mind anyway.

Yes, I'd have no trouble fitting an alarm for her (though not in her house due to her utter daft thing about all wires must be completely hidden), but doesn't meet her needs. So ADT got that one a while back.  And because its monitored and fully managed remotely by them, I can't add in another zone for the garage and outbuildings, they would have to do it.

She might not be so concerned about garage and outbuildings, so might get away with a separate DIY option which I'd happily buy and fit.


Currently looking at CCTV options for my eldest bro's refurbed shop, and there is a lot of interesting kit out there now, and even full IP recording solutions are quite affordable. But as little bro has found out, if the scumbags have cased the joint before, CCTV is useless if they know where the cameras are.

For future reference, Visonic do various wireless kits from about 200 quid which will includes a wireless bellbox, 2 passives, 1 mag door contact, Panel with 2 remotes and 2 prox fobs. All bits and bobs except the fobs are already programmed up so just run a power cable to the panel and fit the accessories 
The panel has a built in speech dialler so will ring the numbers that you know will answer the phone and do something about it if there is a problem 
Also accepts panic pendants etc.
As said before, I avoided wireless like the plague to the extent the I definitely lost work over the years but the newer 868 MHz narrow band stuff is very reliable 

What sort of stuff does your bro's shop sell ?

[Shackeng]

I am the contact for a neighbors monitored alarm system. Recently I received the automated call that the alarm had been triggered. I knew why, as he had the decorators in while he was away, however I went round and checked, everything OK, and rang the company to advise. Thanks very much she said. End of... so I thought. An hour later I had another automated call. Checked again, everything OK, rang the number, very suspicious that this was a repeat call for the previous alarm, and so it proved. Turns out that when I first called, she Emailed the appropriate dept.!!! Who clearly had not read the 'All clear' email and cancelled the alarm, and so the automated call was re-triggered!!!

I did politely point out to the agent that I thought any self-respecting burglar could have cleared the house of valuables in an hour, so what was the point of having a monitored system.