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[zirk]

UTP is as good as any cable you can get these days, plenty of twists to.

To be honest, if it was me, that's exactly what I would do, get some UTP (Cat5/e will be fine) and install an extension cable neatly with some crimped 431a connectors on the ends etc, but that's easy for me as I have the materials, tools and test methods kicking around to do the job.   

[TheBoy]

This is getting more involved than I thought it would.

The socket in the bedroom is not a NTES, but a PCS whatever that is, and the phone and router lights annoy Swimbo at night so they have to be moved to the hallway.
 

Yeah, you're a bit knackered. Telephone extension cord is your only (legal) option, and they are unsuited to long distances.

Rubbish.  The extension cable is just as capable of carrying the signal as the miles (possibly) of underground cable from the exchange.

I've (in a previous residence) used a 40m extension cable (ok, I was naughty and extended from the master socket) and had no negative impact on ADSL speed.

Anybody who has seen the insides of a BT Cabinet would know that a shielded extension cable is the least of your worries! 

EDIT:  In fact, my Sky Router is plugged into the furthest extension from the NTE5 socket in my current house (up two floors, across the loft and down two floors) and there is NO difference.  I have FTTC.

SKY Fibre 40Mb Up and 10Mb Down



Modem Status;

 Modem
Modem Status Connected
Traffic Type:PTM
Line Rate - Upstream (Kbps):9995
Line Rate - Downstream (Kbps):40000

No standard phone cables are shielded, be it UG, dropwire or internal. And yes, I've been in more cabs that most...  ...fortunately there aren't many Midland style cabs about now, and virtually all cabs built in the last 20+ years will be IDC.  In cabs (and other joints), no matter what sort, both the E and D sides maintain their twist up to the connection, and the jumper is twisted as well to eliminate cross talk.

The problems with plug in extension cables are:

1) For voice and internet, attenuation is high - this is why you can't get a good quality lead longer than 5m
2) For internet, an extension cable is flat, thus not twisted, hammering the SNR


Guessing with figures you're getting, you're within 300m of the cab, thus the line can easily maintain the headline speed. If you were further away, or had an 78Mbps service, you'd start to notice potential improvements

[TheBoy]

UTP is as good as any cable you can get these days, plenty of twists to.

To be honest, if it was me, that's exactly what I would do, get some UTP (Cat5/e will be fine) and install an extension cable neatly with some crimped 431a connectors on the ends etc, but that's easy for me as I have the materials, tools and test methods kicking around to do the job.

If it were me, I'd probably just slap an NTE5 on 

[zirk]

UTP is as good as any cable you can get these days, plenty of twists to.

To be honest, if it was me, that's exactly what I would do, get some UTP (Cat5/e will be fine) and install an extension cable neatly with some crimped 431a connectors on the ends etc, but that's easy for me as I have the materials, tools and test methods kicking around to do the job.

If it were me, I'd probably just slap an NTE5 on 

Your a Naughty Boy,  "Sorry, Mr BT Engineer is was like that when I moved in !, and no, Ive got no idea why its says Maplin on the Face Plate" 

[TheBoy]

UTP is as good as any cable you can get these days, plenty of twists to.

To be honest, if it was me, that's exactly what I would do, get some UTP (Cat5/e will be fine) and install an extension cable neatly with some crimped 431a connectors on the ends etc, but that's easy for me as I have the materials, tools and test methods kicking around to do the job.

If it were me, I'd probably just slap an NTE5 on 

Your a Naughty Boy,  "Sorry, Mr BT Engineer is was like that when I moved in !, and no, Ive got no idea why its says Maplin on the Face Plate" 

Obviously, I'd use a real one

When I had the 2 fibre lines upgraded from ADSL, the engineer couldn't believe his luck - it was all fitted and ready for him, so all he had to do was swing it in the cab, and drink tea

[zirk]

UTP is as good as any cable you can get these days, plenty of twists to.

To be honest, if it was me, that's exactly what I would do, get some UTP (Cat5/e will be fine) and install an extension cable neatly with some crimped 431a connectors on the ends etc, but that's easy for me as I have the materials, tools and test methods kicking around to do the job.

If it were me, I'd probably just slap an NTE5 on 

Your a Naughty Boy,  "Sorry, Mr BT Engineer is was like that when I moved in !, and no, Ive got no idea why its says Maplin on the Face Plate" 

Obviously, I'd use a real one

When I had the 2 fibre lines upgraded from ADSL, the engineer couldn't believe his luck - it was all fitted and ready for him, so all he had to do was swing it in the cab, and drink tea

I must admit, years ago when I did a fair few Control Room shifts and moves, anything that was branded with the BT logo (mostly Faceplates) and were now redundant would end up in the 'BT Cardboard Box' in the back of my car.

That way, any odd jobs I did for family and friends would look as though it should be there so to speak. 

[VXL V6]

And yes, I've been in more cabs that most...  ...fortunately there aren't many Midland style cabs about now, and virtually all cabs built in the last 20+ years will be IDC.  In cabs (and other joints), no matter what sort, both the E and D sides maintain their twist up to the connection, and the jumper is twisted as well to eliminate cross talk.

Ah Jelly crimps and paper twist labels.   

On our new builds we use CAT5E UTP to each residents room and terminate on our own 520 DP, usually when Newsites show up they then ditch the idea of bolting up a standard BT DP and use ours. They are happy to adopt our cabling as the specification exceeds BT specs. Obviously you also have three spare pairs per room as well....

[tigers_gonads]

You lot know now't 
You just can't beat a run of old 6 core alarm cable stuck under the edge of the carpet with any joins twisted together and wrapped in a bit of lecky tape 

[zirk]

You lot know now't 
You just can't beat a run of old 6 core alarm cable stuck under the edge of the carpet with any joins twisted together and wrapped in a bit of lecky tape 

Typical Hull lad, sweep it under the carpet, no one will see it, and fitting dodgy secondhand bits.   

ere' TG, do ya wanna buy some back boxes and face plates with Kingston Communications stamped on them, got a box of them kicking around somewhere.   

[frostbite]

I have an nte2000 filter face you can have for postage. Then you can extend to your hearts content

Looks like this

http://www.run-it-direct.co.uk/BTNTE5ADSLfaceplate.html

[tigers_gonads]

You lot know now't 
You just can't beat a run of old 6 core alarm cable stuck under the edge of the carpet with any joins twisted together and wrapped in a bit of lecky tape 

Typical Hull lad, sweep it under the carpet, no one will see it, and fitting dodgy secondhand bits.   

ere' TG, do ya wanna buy some back boxes and face plates with Kingston Communications stamped on them, got a box of them kicking around somewhere.   

I'll take the lot 
Take a cheque 

[TheBoy]

You lot know now't 
You just can't beat a run of old 6 core alarm cable stuck under the edge of the carpet with any joins twisted together and wrapped in a bit of lecky tape 

The best bodges used sellotape...

...and often fitted by the alarm fitters .

For this, as they should know better, I always presented the customer with an A158, which was sure to get them on the phone to alarm co to rant

[aaronjb]

If you presented me with a road from Lincoln to Skegness I don't think I'd be phoning an alarm company.. maybe the men in white coats, instead 

[deviator]

UTP is as good as any cable you can get these days, plenty of twists to.

This ^^. There is a round junction box outside my house on the wall. I opening it up, brought Cat5 cable in and soldered it up! Then rewired a new BT socket up. Internet line speed increased for me, as there was dodgy extensions running around the entire house.