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Omega retrofitting cruise control issues
« on: 31 May 2016, 13:37:17 »

Hi. I'm trying to retrofit a cc on my Omega. I've got the new stalk, the break switch (it came form factory in mine's) and the only two items left, are the actuator/box unit and the clucth switch (since it's a MT Omega). So, the question is not about how to fit it, since I actually read some tutorials (from OOF, of course), but about the actuator/box/however it's called, serial part no., because I search for it and it seems that the "same" item got different serial GM number.

Can anyone please tell me the serial no. for a cruise control actuator that will work correctly on a X20XEV code engine?

Thanks, and sorry for my manners and grammar. Not my daily language.
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Re: Omega retrofitting cruise control issues
« Reply #1 on: 31 May 2016, 14:39:12 »

Cant help with the S/N but there are two versions 2.0 and V6, the 2.0 has a shorter Throttle Cable from memory, dont forget your also need the bracket(s) that hold the 2 Throttle Cables in place.

Your also need the clutch switch if yours is Manual.
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Re: Omega retrofitting cruise control issues
« Reply #2 on: 31 May 2016, 15:10:46 »

Cant help with the S/N but there are two versions 2.0 and V6, the 2.0 has a shorter Throttle Cable from memory, dont forget your also need the bracket(s) that hold the 2 Throttle Cables in place.

Your also need the clutch switch if yours is Manual.
Thanks for answering. In the two versions, are the actuator the same and does only change the throttle cable lenght?

Thanks for your time and sorry for to many questions. I want to be at least 90% sure that's gonna work before expending money, hehe.
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Re: Omega retrofitting cruise control issues
« Reply #3 on: 31 May 2016, 15:29:39 »

Same base unit and a different length cable attached to it, I suspect you could get a V6 one to fit.

Beware the brake switch as you need a four pin version for cruise (it may well only be a 2 pin unit fitted at the moment)
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Re: Omega retrofitting cruise control issues
« Reply #4 on: 31 May 2016, 15:31:19 »

I believe there the same, so both would probably a 2.0 but not the other way around, not sure if the Brackets are the same though.
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Re: Omega retrofitting cruise control issues
« Reply #5 on: 31 May 2016, 16:39:34 »

Same base unit and a different length cable attached to it, I suspect you could get a V6 one to fit.

Beware the brake switch as you need a four pin version for cruise (it may well only be a 2 pin unit fitted at the moment)
Ok, thanks. 4-pin brake switch I'm pretty sure it's fitted. I'll check it another time, though. Better to be sure.

Thanks for answering!
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Re: Omega retrofitting cruise control issues
« Reply #6 on: 31 May 2016, 16:44:19 »

I believe there the same, so both would probably a 2.0 but not the other way around, not sure if the Brackets are the same though.

Thanks! The actual struggle is that both GM 25141616 and GM 25315546 seem to be the "same" actuator and seem to work ok on a X20XEV engine. Last one seems to be from a Vectra B platform, though.

I don't know if it really bother the car model, the engine code or the makeyear or all of this three things. I'm a little lost here right now. As I said before, I wan't to be sure it would work fine before wasting money.

Sorry for the annoying, and again, thanks for answering.
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Re: Omega retrofitting cruise control issues
« Reply #7 on: 31 May 2016, 16:48:05 »

I believe there the same, so both would probably a 2.0 but not the other way around, not sure if the Brackets are the same though.

Thanks! The actual struggle is that both GM 25141616 and GM 25315546 seem to be the "same" actuator and seem to work ok on a X20XEV engine. Last one seems to be from a Vectra B platform, though.

I don't know if it really bother the car model, the engine code or the makeyear or all of this three things. I'm a little lost here right now. As I said before, I wan't to be sure it would work fine before wasting money.

Sorry for the annoying, and again, thanks for answering.

Yes Vectra B ones work to.

In that era the cruise modules were all the same but with different length cables attached to suit the engine installation (Vectra being FWD was different again to the two Omega versions)
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Re: Omega retrofitting cruise control issues
« Reply #8 on: 31 May 2016, 16:53:11 »

I believe there the same, so both would probably a 2.0 but not the other way around, not sure if the Brackets are the same though.

Yes the bracket is common, it has a square hole punched into it which accepts the cruise cable.  :y
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Re: Omega retrofitting cruise control issues
« Reply #9 on: 31 May 2016, 17:06:58 »

I believe there the same, so both would probably a 2.0 but not the other way around, not sure if the Brackets are the same though.

Thanks! The actual struggle is that both GM 25141616 and GM 25315546 seem to be the "same" actuator and seem to work ok on a X20XEV engine. Last one seems to be from a Vectra B platform, though.

I don't know if it really bother the car model, the engine code or the makeyear or all of this three things. I'm a little lost here right now. As I said before, I wan't to be sure it would work fine before wasting money.

Sorry for the annoying, and again, thanks for answering.

Yes Vectra B ones work to.

In that era the cruise modules were all the same but with different length cables attached to suit the engine installation (Vectra being FWD was different again to the two Omega versions)

So, the Vectra one that I have on my watching list, come from a 1.8 16v, it will have different throttle lenght, right? Sorry for repeating questions all time, but I'm very, very, very, veeeery lost.
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Re: Omega retrofitting cruise control issues
« Reply #10 on: 31 May 2016, 18:05:50 »

I believe there the same, so both would probably a 2.0 but not the other way around, not sure if the Brackets are the same though.

Thanks! The actual struggle is that both GM 25141616 and GM 25315546 seem to be the "same" actuator and seem to work ok on a X20XEV engine. Last one seems to be from a Vectra B platform, though.

I don't know if it really bother the car model, the engine code or the makeyear or all of this three things. I'm a little lost here right now. As I said before, I wan't to be sure it would work fine before wasting money.

Sorry for the annoying, and again, thanks for answering.

Yes Vectra B ones work to.

In that era the cruise modules were all the same but with different length cables attached to suit the engine installation (Vectra being FWD was different again to the two Omega versions)

So, the Vectra one that I have on my watching list, come from a 1.8 16v, it will have different throttle lenght, right? Sorry for repeating questions all time, but I'm very, very, very, veeeery lost.
Probably, hence why it has a different part number, Vectras Engines are transverse, where as Omega is in line, so whether it will fit or not, who knows.

Your kind of making hard work for yourself here, just retro fit one from an Omega, at least you know it will fit before parting with your cash.
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Re: Omega retrofitting cruise control issues
« Reply #11 on: 31 May 2016, 19:18:53 »

Probably, hence why it has a different part number, Vectras Engines are transverse, where as Omega is in line, so whether it will fit or not, who knows.

Your kind of making hard work for yourself here, just retro fit one from an Omega, at least you know it will fit before parting with your cash.
The problem comes when I search for an Omega cruise control, I got a few possibles boxes/actuators/whatever they're called, that seem the same product but come with diferent serial no. All of them seem to work ok on my engine code, and some of them also seem to fit also the Vectra B. That's why I'm stuck, I don't know which is the correct one to be fitted in my car.

Again, thanks for your time and sorry for the questions!
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Re: Omega retrofitting cruise control issues
« Reply #12 on: 31 May 2016, 19:26:05 »

I believe all the actuators are the same, they use different length Bowden cables for different applications.

So any Omega-B or Vectra-B actuator will do, but you will need to source the 2.0l Omega Bowden cable....   ....good luck with that, as cruise was a rare option on our 2.0l
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Re: Omega retrofitting cruise control issues
« Reply #13 on: 31 May 2016, 19:32:02 »

Sorry for poor pic, but is your throttle body the same with the square cut-out
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Re: Omega retrofitting cruise control issues
« Reply #14 on: 31 May 2016, 22:22:36 »

I believe all the actuators are the same, they use different length Bowden cables for different applications.

So any Omega-B or Vectra-B actuator will do, but you will need to source the 2.0l Omega Bowden cable....   ....good luck with that, as cruise was a rare option on our 2.0l

Ok, thanks! I hope I'll found something. Hehe
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