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[judge_dredd65]

Hi All,

Could someone please advise me on upgrading my 3.2 Irmscher estate brake discs, I am looking at Black Diamond drilled and grooved with EBC yellowstuff pads.
I am replacing both front and rear.

Any advice gratefully recieved

[Doctor Gollum]

Save your money. Fit the front calipers from a 2004-5 Monaro CV8/Base Pontiac GTO with EBC Ultimax pads...

Leave the Rears alone unless the calipers are donald

[tigers_gonads]

Save your money. Fit the front calipers from a 2004-5 Monaro CV8/Base Pontiac GTO with EBC Ultimax pads...

Leave the Rears alone unless the calipers are donald

Are these the twin pot ones that fit straight onto the omega's carrier ?

What sort of price and where ?

[pauls]

Yes straight bolt on i got mine secondhand from the states. When i get home i will try and dig up a list of parts. Its a good simple upgrade that works well.

[106pete]

You could do so much better than ebc, I have tried them in the past and they are terrible, I cannot stress that enough!!

Your best combo for standard brakes is some pagid plain disc and ferrodo ds2500 pads, they are a perfect pad with so much bite hot and cold. The drilled and grooved disc are wasted on a road car and mostly for looks.

The best idea would be to fit the gto brakes with the pagid and ferrodo combo!!

[pauls]

Yes straight bolt on i got mine secondhand from the states. When i get home i will try and dig up a list of parts. Its a good simple upgrade that works well.

Sorry cant find list.. but i got left and right calipers for a 2004 pontiac gto shipped from the states. Then Brake pads from epc and a set of braided hoses(not needed but i just thought why not). Also fresh brake fluid. I then got them upto that nice man serek to for for me. All in I think it around £300. You could of course do it cheeper if you forget the hoses also if you can fit yourself.

For me a very good and quick upgrade that works better than the standard.

[Doctor Gollum]

You could do so much better than ebc, I have tried them in the past and they are terrible, I cannot stress that enough!!

Your best combo for standard brakes is some pagid plain disc and ferrodo ds2500 pads, they are a perfect pad with so much bite hot and cold. The drilled and grooved disc are wasted on a road car and mostly for looks.

The best idea would be to fit the gto brakes with the pagid and ferrodo combo!!

The Ultimax pads are a third to half the price, don't fade anything like GM ones, pull up from three figures when cold, even in wet/ sub zero temps. Only downside is that they are a bit dusty, and if you cane them, they'll struggle to last 3K miles.

Won't fit anything else now.

[Marks DTM Calib]

You could do so much better than ebc, I have tried them in the past and they are terrible, I cannot stress that enough!!

Your best combo for standard brakes is some pagid plain disc and ferrodo ds2500 pads, they are a perfect pad with so much bite hot and cold. The drilled and grooved disc are wasted on a road car and mostly for looks.

The best idea would be to fit the gto brakes with the pagid and ferrodo combo!!

And Pagid discs are to be avoided, used to be great but there product quality has dropped off a cliff in the last 18 months or so

[106pete]

I can only speak for the last set I had around a year ago and haven't had a problem, hope they haven't dropped in quality as they are still twice the price of others!!

If the ultimax pads only last 3k do you really think they are worth a third of the price, my ferodos last quite along time, do suffer the same brake dust but no big deal.

[Marks DTM Calib]

I can only speak for the last set I had around a year ago and haven't had a problem, hope they haven't dropped in quality as they are still twice the price of others!!

If the ultimax pads only last 3k do you really think they are worth a third of the price, my ferodos last quite along time, do suffer the same brake dust but no big deal.

Oh they have (4 sets failed early and counting now!) and much better brands about for the same money 

[Doctor Gollum]

I can only speak for the last set I had around a year ago and haven't had a problem, hope they haven't dropped in quality as they are still twice the price of others!!

If the ultimax pads only last 3k do you really think they are worth a third of the price, my ferodos last quite along time, do suffer the same brake dust but no big deal.

Yes. The improvement in the breaking set up I had fitted was so marked that I *hammered them... second set lasted nearly 10k once the novelty wore off...

*By hammered I mean 18-20 hard stops from motorway + speeds in 20 miles, 10-12 times a week with almost zero fade.

[Lazydocker]

I can only speak for the last set I had around a year ago and haven't had a problem, hope they haven't dropped in quality as they are still twice the price of others!!

If the ultimax pads only last 3k do you really think they are worth a third of the price, my ferodos last quite along time, do suffer the same brake dust but no big deal.

Yes. The improvement in the breaking set up I had fitted was so marked that I *hammered them... second set lasted nearly 10k once the novelty wore off...

*By hammered I mean 18-20 hard stops from motorway + speeds in 20 miles, 10-12 times a week with almost zero fade.

They did feel good

[TheBoy]

I have yet to come across a decent Ferrodo, EBC, Mintex or even old skool Pagid pad that works well on an Omega for spirited driving (or unspirited, for that matter).  I've personally tried most of them over the years, and *ALWAYS* ripped them off fairly quickly and stuck GM ones back on.

I'm afraid my experience of Pagid (on non Omegas) matches what Marks DTM Calib has found, they really have been on a par with the cheapest unbranded shite for the past couple of years .


I get about 5-6K from a set of GM front pads, irrespective of whether TC or OE, and about 3 sets of pads to a set of GM discs.