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[zirk]

Its been voted by the people, so it will happen, absolute best or worst case, which ever way you want to view it, the new PM with the backing of who ever, may call a 2nd Referendum before hitting the Were Out button, highly unlikely, unless a lot more Political crap hits the fan before then.

2nd Referendum, cant see it making much of a difference, more people will get up off there arse and vote than before thats for sure, but the Outs will come will vote in Force, there maybe a few small number that will change there mind due to all the aftermath of crap thats going on, but that cant be reversed now. The Stays will vote as before, some may even change there minds on that one on the basis of its done now let get with it. As for the extra Voters whos knows, but as said really cant see a second chance offer being an option.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Its been voted by the people, so it will happen, absolute best or worst case, which ever way you want to view it, the new PM with the backing of who ever, may call a 2nd Referendum before hitting the Were Out button, highly unlikely, unless a lot more Political crap hits the fan before then.

2nd Referendum, cant see it making much of a difference, more people will get up off there arse and vote than before thats for sure, but the Outs will come will vote in Force, there maybe a few small number that will change there mind due to all the aftermath of crap thats going on, but that cant be reversed now. The Stays will vote as before, some may even change there minds on that one on the basis of its done now let get with it. As for the extra Voters whos knows, but as said really cant see a second chance offer being an option.

When?

Before or after the return of Halley's comet?

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

28th July 2061.

[zirk]

Its been voted by the people, so it will happen, absolute best or worst case, which ever way you want to view it, the new PM with the backing of who ever, may call a 2nd Referendum before hitting the Were Out button, highly unlikely, unless a lot more Political crap hits the fan before then.

2nd Referendum, cant see it making much of a difference, more people will get up off there arse and vote than before thats for sure, but the Outs will come will vote in Force, there maybe a few small number that will change there mind due to all the aftermath of crap thats going on, but that cant be reversed now. The Stays will vote as before, some may even change there minds on that one on the basis of its done now let get with it. As for the extra Voters whos knows, but as said really cant see a second chance offer being an option.

When?

Before or after the return of Halley's comet?

Well were not going to have that answer till someone new moves into no. 10. 

[Sir Tigger KC]

Gove has said today that if he becomes PM, he will not invoke A50 until next year. 

Invoke:  Now that's a lovely word that until last week nobody used or probably knew existed! 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

If article 50 isn't invoked by the end of the year (at the very latest) someone is either trying to pull a fast one, or isn't in a possession of a spine and shouldn't be in the job - imo.

[Field Marshal Dr. Opti]

Gove has said today that if he becomes PM, he will not invoke A50 until next year. 

Invoke:  Now that's a lovely word that until last week nobody used or probably knew existed! 

That means no discussion with our european friends until then, then.

We want discussions first......they want article 50 invoked first.

Stalemate.

[biggriffin]

If the government go against the will of the people there will be riots,
Also if we as a country wish to trade with lapshoe song, or east Korea maybe even America, what are the EU going to do, arrest the incumbent, invade, or send us a very stern letter, basically we need a strong leader who will say up yours we are doing it our way.
When people realise Europe needs us more than we need them, also other member states are already mumbling about leaving, Europe is crumbling again.

[Varche]

My prediction. Vested interests have pulled the strings already.EU brake on negotiations.
Set Gove up for a giant fall. Parliament votes as they believe they know what is best. They vote for remain. government gets the chop andTheresa Mayor Osborne step in. The disenfranchised uk voters on minimum wage or thereabouts and no savings object. Popular newspapers latch on and there is a general election. Lib deems make a comeback and gain two more seats. uKIP field a lot of candidates and win maybe twenty seats. labour still headed by Corbyn who still hasn't connected with the disenfranchised voter and loses seats.

May or Osborne then lead us back into Europe BUT on what terms. Adopt the euro, Shengen. One thing is for certain it will not be as favourable as even the crappy deal Cameron came back with.

Worse, the Eu is now unstoppable. No other country dares have a referendum. Our return with our tails between our legs means faster federal EU. Turkey joins in an accelerated manner despite all the ta
K of vetoes,eu army gets off the ground. Britain has to pay for its share even though it has an army. Endogamy offers to be Eu supreme.. New unelected post over the five presidents.

Everything in the garden is rosy.

[biggriffin]

My prediction. Vested interests have pulled the strings already.EU brake on negotiations.
Set Gove up for a giant fall. Parliament votes as they believe they know what is best. They vote for remain. government gets the chop andTheresa Mayor Osborne step in. The disenfranchised uk voters on minimum wage or thereabouts and no savings object. Popular newspapers latch on and there is a general election. Lib deems make a comeback and gain two more seats. uKIP field a lot of candidates and win maybe twenty seats. labour still headed by Corbyn who still hasn't connected with the disenfranchised voter and loses seats.

May or Osborne then lead us back into Europe BUT on what terms. Adopt the euro, Shengen. One thing is for certain it will not be as favourable as even the crappy deal Cameron came back with.

Worse, the Eu is now unstoppable. No other country dares have a referendum. Our return with our tails between our legs means faster federal EU. Turkey joins in an accelerated manner despite all the ta
K of vetoes,eu army gets off the ground. Britain has to pay for its share even though it has an army. Endogamy offers to be Eu supreme.. New unelected post over the five presidents.

Everything in the garden is rosy.

Hiel Merkal. The 1000 year Reich is real. Gawd help us all.

[Varche]

Blasted predictive text. Should have read Erdogan takes up new post as supremo.

It really does beg the question though under what terms we will re enter having not left?

[LC0112G]

Blasted predictive text. Should have read Erdogan takes up new post as supremo.

It really does beg the question though under what terms we will re enter having not left?

We don't have to re-enter if we haven't left. Everything that has been agreed since 1973 (with the possible exception of Cameron's 4 concessions) still stand. All that has happened so far is that we've had a referendum which has no binding effect on HMG. Until/unless we invoke Art50 nothing has changed, and we can use our veto just as much as we could 10 days ago.

I said last week that I didn't think we'd invoke Art50 till Oct-2017. I still think that's the most likely date.

[Shackeng]

IMHO
1. There will be no re-entry.
2. We will/should not invoke Article 50 until we have all our ducks in a row, and have completed the discussions with, if not EU governments, then corporate entities within Europe protecting their own vested interests.

[Rods2]

Yes, as a democracy, with libertarian traditions. All Tory candidates, say they will see through Brext. Pro-EU  Labour party also say they will support Brexit. Both parties recognize danger to democracy.

Plus EU can't wait to kick us out as free marketeers we are holding back their creation of a 'perfect' utopia, the EUSSR!

Venezuela here they come.

[Rods2]

Yes, as a democracy, with libertarian traditions. All Tory candidates, say they will see through Brext. Pro-EU  Labour party also say they will support Brexit. Both parties recognize danger to democracy.

Plus EU can't wait to kick us out as free marketeers we are holding back their creation of a 'perfect' utopia, the EUSSR! Venezuela here they come.