I disagree with most of the posters on this subject.
Just saying... 
In what respect(s)?
Yes, Trump was unwise to say those things. However, it WAS 10 years ago and the conversation was supposed to be private. I doubt there is anyone on here that has not said something in the past that they now regret. However, these were WORDS, not actions – there is huge difference.
Now, compare to Clinton whose past actions have been, in my opinion, not just immoral, but possibly much, much, worse.
The mainstream media, especially in this country (but also including CNN in the States) have deliberately presented Trump as the anti-Christ. The fact, as I see it, is that he wants to limit immigration, reduce taxes and stop the US involvement in foreign wars (my number 1 reason for hoping Trump wins). So, what's not to like?
Essentially, he is anti-establishment. The Clinton Foundation is part of the establishment. When I see all those Western arms in the hands of the so-called moderate rebels in Syria, I remember that it was a Democrat POTUS and a Secretary of State that pushed for Assad to be overthrown. Whatever you may say about Assad (and Gaddafi and Hussein, for that matter), they largely kept a lid on things. In the case of Assad, he oversaw a secular state which included many Christians. Now, there are hundreds of thousands dead and those that aren't, are living in hopeless conditions with the ever-present fear of imminent death. Meanwhile, Christians face persecution and execution as these states turn into jihadist hellholes.
Many Americans have seen how the US has behaved abroad and want nothing more to do with it. If Clinton is elected, the world will be even more dangerous than it is now, IMHO. In contrast, Trump is a pragmatic businessman who, I suspect, will command a great deal more respect in Beijing and Moscow than the current incumbent.
In any event, he said something in private for which he has apologised. Time to move on, as most American voters would seem to be doing.
These are my opinions and are based, not on C4, BBC or ITV News, but on many hours reading online articles and comments across the political spectrum.
PS Hope that answers your question, Steve. 
It's a point of view that many Americans take and I think that the contest will be closer than people think. My OP was just lamenting the fact that it has to be either of them, I'm not particularly taken with Clinton either.
The world is, IMO, in a parlous state at the moment, and we have never been closer to a major kick-off. I just can't see either of these two making a difference for the better, possibly they could make it a lot worse.
America is on the wane, with Russia and China taking much more of an assertive position in the world. OK, about time, maybe, but America and Americans won't give up their throne easily, neither will they treat Russia or China as equals.
When you say anti-establishment, what makes you think that is a good thing? I think it just means more uncertainty.
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