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Started by powerslinky, 14 October 2016, 04:42:04

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Andy B

Quote from: STEMO on 14 October 2016, 22:37:36
What difference does it actually make? You buy a car because of what it does, not what some wank wordy marketeer calls it.

exactly.  :y

Shooting brake would have been the last thing I'd have described a MKII Escort Estate ......

frostbite

Does that mean a v12 xjs lynx eventer is a shooting-brake?
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Andy B

Quote from: frostbite on 14 October 2016, 22:46:57
Does that mean a v12 xjs lynx eventer is a shooting-brake?

S'pose so ..... along with a Scimitar 5/6/6a/6b/8  ;)

Shackeng

First car I drove on the roads at 15 was a Morris 8 2 door shooting brake. Not much traffic in the '50's :y

powerslinky

Quote from: Doctor Opti on 14 October 2016, 20:07:33
Quote from: Essex Big Al on 14 October 2016, 04:42:04
Just going through some old photographs last night . . .

Found one of my grandad with his then  brand new 1967 Ford Cortina Estate.

He always called estate cars  "Shooting Brakes"  as in "my brand new '67 cortina shooting brake."

Anyone on here know of the term . . .or am I really showing my age here  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Either a very late MK1 or an early MK2. :y

Yes  early Mk2 . . .  remember it well   it was a metallic brown colour  :y :y

Mister Rog

Quote from: STEMO on 14 October 2016, 22:37:36
What difference does it actually make? You buy a car because of what it does, not what some wank wordy marketeer calls it.

Not in todays World. Branding and marketing are all important to those who sell us stuff. A car maker may well see some advantage and differentiation in calling an Estate a Shooting Brake. Come to think of it what about the word "Estate" ? Does that not suggest some Grandeur, BMW call their estates "Touring" What does that mean ?

Maybe suppose they should just be called " Longer"  or maybe "Biggerinside"  ::)
"The desire to be a politician should bar you for life from ever becoming one." Billy Connolly

Nick W

Quote from: Mister Rog on 15 October 2016, 08:46:38
Quote from: STEMO on 14 October 2016, 22:37:36
What difference does it actually make? You buy a car because of what it does, not what some wank wordy marketeer calls it.

Not in todays World. Branding and marketing are all important to those who sell us stuff. A car maker may well see some advantage and differentiation in calling an Estate a Shooting Brake. Come to think of it what about the word "Estate" ? Does that not suggest some Grandeur, BMW call their estates "Touring" What does that mean ?


For once BMW's tourer isn't marketing wank, but an honest appraisal of the car's piss-poor load carrying capacity. You'll get bigger objects in an Astra estate than a 5series.

Nick W

Quote from: Essex Big Al on 15 October 2016, 05:43:16
Quote from: Doctor Opti on 14 October 2016, 20:07:33
Quote from: Essex Big Al on 14 October 2016, 04:42:04
Just going through some old photographs last night . . .

Found one of my grandad with his then  brand new 1967 Ford Cortina Estate.

He always called estate cars  "Shooting Brakes"  as in "my brand new '67 cortina shooting brake."

Anyone on here know of the term . . .or am I really showing my age here  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Either a very late MK1 or an early MK2. :y

Yes  early Mk2 . . .  remember it well   it was a metallic brown colour  :y :y

Before and after the paint peeled off?  ;D

Mister Rog

Quote from: Nick W on 15 October 2016, 08:53:10
Quote from: Mister Rog on 15 October 2016, 08:46:38
Quote from: STEMO on 14 October 2016, 22:37:36
What difference does it actually make? You buy a car because of what it does, not what some wank wordy marketeer calls it.

Not in todays World. Branding and marketing are all important to those who sell us stuff. A car maker may well see some advantage and differentiation in calling an Estate a Shooting Brake. Come to think of it what about the word "Estate" ? Does that not suggest some Grandeur, BMW call their estates "Touring" What does that mean ?


For once BMW's tourer isn't marketing wank, but an honest appraisal of the car's piss-poor load carrying capacity. You'll get bigger objects in an Astra estate than a 5series.

And Audis are possible worse, thats why I gought a Volvo

It's really strange that a car manufacturer decides to produce an Estate version of a big car, then has a roof and rear hatch door that have been designed to reduce load carrying capacity  ???
"The desire to be a politician should bar you for life from ever becoming one." Billy Connolly

biggriffin

Quote from: Sir Tigger on 14 October 2016, 21:43:19
Isn't the Jaguar XF  called a bird puller  :-\
That's fixed, according to lord opti  :D
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Nick W

Quote from: Mister Rog on 15 October 2016, 09:17:51
Quote from: Nick W on 15 October 2016, 08:53:10

For once BMW's tourer isn't marketing wank, but an honest appraisal of the car's piss-poor load carrying capacity. You'll get bigger objects in an Astra estate than a 5series.

And Audis are possible worse, thats why I bought a Volvo

It's really strange that a car manufacturer decides to produce an Estate version of a big car, then has a roof and rear hatch door that have been designed to reduce load carrying capacity  ???

Not to mention the massive wheel arch intrusion, that the seats don't fold down flat and that roof rails were optional. The flush fitting chrome luggage hooks are pretty, which is probably more important in the showroom.

Bigron

Many years ago (please forgive me, I was young...) I bought a Wartburg Estate!
Now, despite many negative points from a petrol-heads's point of view, it had the bestest everrear capacity, with the rear seat squab pivoting at its forward edge to lie totally flat. The backs of the rear seats then disappeared totally into the space thereby vacated, giving a cavernouus load space or an impromtu double bed - who needed a van for courting? :-[ 8)

Ron.

powerslinky

#27
Quote from: Bigron on 15 October 2016, 11:00:26
Many years ago (please forgive me, I was young...) I bought a Wartburg Estate!
Now, despite many negative points from a petrol-heads's point of view, it had the bestest everrear capacity, with the rear seat squab pivoting at its forward edge to lie totally flat. The backs of the rear seats then disappeared totally into the space thereby vacated, giving a cavernouus load space or an impromtu double bed - who needed a van for courting? :-[ 8)

Ron.

Can't imagine any of your younger day conquests , telling their friends nowadays " I lost my virginity in the back of a Wartburg"  Ron . . . .

I bet even Opti has never done the dirty deed in the back  one of those  ;D ;D ;D   

Sorry Ron   . .but no brownie points for owning up to that  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Bigron

At least the rear wheel arches could never rust.....

Ron.

Field Marshal Dr. Opti

#29
Quote from: Essex Big Al on 15 October 2016, 11:08:14
Quote from: Bigron on 15 October 2016, 11:00:26
Many years ago (please forgive me, I was young...) I bought a Wartburg Estate!
Now, despite many negative points from a petrol-heads's point of view, it had the bestest everrear capacity, with the rear seat squab pivoting at its forward edge to lie totally flat. The backs of the rear seats then disappeared totally into the space thereby vacated, giving a cavernouus load space or an impromtu double bed - who needed a van for courting? :-[ 8)

Ron.

Can't imagine any of your younger day conquests , telling their friends nowadays " I lost my virginity in the back of a Wartburg"  Ron . . . .

I bet even Opti has never done the dirty deed in the back  one of those  ;D ;D ;D   

Sorry Ron   . .but no brownie points for owning up to that  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

The 'Warty' was a smoky 2 stroke if memory serves. ;)

I imagine it only impressed the girl from the chip shop. The fat one with facial hair  blotchy legs and an unpleasant yeast infection. :D ;D