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Re: OEM lower arms, drop links, both track rods band new £69 the lot!
« Reply #31 on: 20 October 2016, 20:03:58 »

As for Febi, iirc it was one of these which snapped during my vertical bush experiment...

ATP supplied are of similar quality for less...

If you want to choosy, pick the heaviest ones you can find :y
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Re: OEM lower arms, drop links, both track rods band new £69 the lot!
« Reply #32 on: 20 October 2016, 20:48:09 »

Al, what do you think about Meyle wishbones?

If they're no good I might just refurbish the ones that are on the car with VX bushes.
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Re: OEM lower arms, drop links, both track rods band new £69 the lot!
« Reply #33 on: 20 October 2016, 21:01:23 »

Meyle HD for drop links if you want them to last and don't want GM.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MEYLE-Front-Right-Stabiliser-anti-roll-bar-DROP-LINK-ROD-Part-No-616-060-5575-HD-/361074354654?hash=item5411b569de:g:jicAAOSwDN1UNBJ8

Thanks for the link Mark.

Where it says front right. Are both sides different part numbers? I thought both sides are identical.

They are both the same.

I've got Meyle HD droplinks on all of mine as the genuine GM ones struggle to last 20K now which means they were only good for 6 months for me.
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Re: OEM lower arms, drop links, both track rods band new £69 the lot!
« Reply #34 on: 21 October 2016, 08:21:48 »

Meyle HD for drop links if you want them to last and don't want GM.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MEYLE-Front-Right-Stabiliser-anti-roll-bar-DROP-LINK-ROD-Part-No-616-060-5575-HD-/361074354654?hash=item5411b569de:g:jicAAOSwDN1UNBJ8

Thanks for the link Mark.

Where it says front right. Are both sides different part numbers? I thought both sides are identical.

They are both the same.

I've got Meyle HD droplinks on all of mine as the genuine GM ones struggle to last 20K now which means they were only good for 6 months for me.

I'll order two of those later. I want to keep the car for as long as possible if I can.

What about the Meyle wishbones.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Meyle-FRONT-Lower-Right-Track-Control-Arm-WISHBONE-No-616-050-0018-/361184612482?hash=item541847d082:g:J7QAAOSw1vlUtBFf

Thanks for the info.
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Re: OEM lower arms, drop links, both track rods band new £69 the lot!
« Reply #35 on: 21 October 2016, 08:49:24 »

Meyle HD for drop links if you want them to last and don't want GM.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MEYLE-Front-Right-Stabiliser-anti-roll-bar-DROP-LINK-ROD-Part-No-616-060-5575-HD-/361074354654?hash=item5411b569de:g:jicAAOSwDN1UNBJ8

Thanks for the link Mark.

Where it says front right. Are both sides different part numbers? I thought both sides are identical.

Both sides are the same part, do a little hunt on ebay to see if there are the same supplier for a pound or two less as that was the first hit (I was in a hurry).

The HD ones shown have a 4 year warranty and are far superior in build quality to the other alternatives plus they are now proven to last
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Re: OEM lower arms, drop links, both track rods band new £69 the lot!
« Reply #36 on: 21 October 2016, 08:51:36 »

They're shit going by the photo :o

You want as much weld as possible around the rear/vertical bush, ideally continuous, but at least 55% split between the two sides... Those are barely 20%

And they individually cost as much as the complete set from ATP.

If you can, go to local factors and buy from them having seen the welding first hand. Failing this, buy cheap and treat as a service item. Labour notwithstanding, the geometry should really be annual anyways ;)
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Re: OEM lower arms, drop links, both track rods band new £69 the lot!
« Reply #37 on: 21 October 2016, 13:52:45 »

Well I don't agree with you there Al, sorry, given they are a rubber bush setup there should be minimal strain on the turret (very different with poly) and the minimal weld will be more than up to it (more weld can actually make it more brittle)

However, Meyle wishbones are an unknown, we know the bushes are pretty good and so are the ball joints.

I would still go with a new rear bush and poly front in what ever wishbones you have as the first choice.
 
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Re: OEM lower arms, drop links, both track rods band new £69 the lot!
« Reply #38 on: 21 October 2016, 14:16:16 »

Fair dos Mark ;)

Genuine arms have over twice the weld area to those shown. Granted my attention to this was with a view to polybuyshing the vertical bush, but I cannot say what make arm failed... could have been Febi or Delphi or Firstline just as easily as being an ATP cheapy... hence my suggestion to buy the ATP ones and treat them as a service item :-\
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Re: OEM lower arms, drop links, both track rods band new £69 the lot!
« Reply #39 on: 21 October 2016, 14:37:01 »

If I was fitting a poly, I would probably be tempted to do a more radical mod and adding strengthening plates to the bush turret (happy to do this is anybody wants to have a go) for any wishbone supplier.  :y
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Re: OEM lower arms, drop links, both track rods band new £69 the lot!
« Reply #40 on: 21 October 2016, 15:23:32 »

I'm using a cheapie wishbone (with all GM and Poly bushes, plus GM balljoints) the wishbones were as-new, but treated to several coats of stonechip paint before fitting, (so touch wood corrosion can not be a factor in any future failure) 2 years and 10k and counting. Happy to leave this as a long-term test for the polys vs the wishbone with less weld.  :)

Mileage is 90% town stop-start, with a row of speed bumps every single day I drive to/from work, too (plus a front nearside RTA nearly 1 yr ago) I'm not gentle on the old girl! Hopefully this is a fairly strenuous test for this setup.
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Re: OEM lower arms, drop links, both track rods band new £69 the lot!
« Reply #41 on: 21 October 2016, 17:00:43 »

I'm using a cheapie wishbone (with all GM and Poly bushes, plus GM balljoints) the wishbones were as-new, but treated to several coats of stonechip paint before fitting, (so touch wood corrosion can not be a factor in any future failure) 2 years and 10k and counting. Happy to leave this as a long-term test for the polys vs the wishbone with less weld.  :)

Mileage is 90% town stop-start, with a row of speed bumps every single day I drive to/from work, too (plus a front nearside RTA nearly 1 yr ago) I'm not gentle on the old girl! Hopefully this is a fairly strenuous test for this setup.



Give it to me, i'll test it for yeh  :-X :D :D
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Re: OEM lower arms, drop links, both track rods band new £69 the lot!
« Reply #42 on: 21 October 2016, 17:39:48 »

Most of my experimentation was tested at 500-700 miles a week ;)

The vertical poly is pretty much ruled out unless a radical redesign can be achieved...
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Re: OEM lower arms, drop links, both track rods band new £69 the lot!
« Reply #43 on: 21 October 2016, 17:55:37 »

Mileage is 90% town stop-start, with a row of speed bumps every single day I drive to/from work, too (plus a front nearside RTA nearly 1 yr ago) I'm not gentle on the old girl! Hopefully this is a fairly strenuous test for this setup.
I think driving style has an impact as well, along with road type.  Round these parts, around the lanes, its not difficult to regularly launch the car, hence the awful state of the underside of my Irmscher bumper within days of getting it sprayed  :'(
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Re: OEM lower arms, drop links, both track rods band new £69 the lot!
« Reply #44 on: 24 October 2016, 16:10:57 »

I'm using a cheapie wishbone (with all GM and Poly bushes, plus GM balljoints) the wishbones were as-new, but treated to several coats of stonechip paint before fitting, (so touch wood corrosion can not be a factor in any future failure) 2 years and 10k and counting. Happy to leave this as a long-term test for the polys vs the wishbone with less weld.  :)

Mileage is 90% town stop-start, with a row of speed bumps every single day I drive to/from work, too (plus a front nearside RTA nearly 1 yr ago) I'm not gentle on the old girl! Hopefully this is a fairly strenuous test for this setup.



Give it to me, i'll test it for yeh  :-X :D :D


Erm...... you're fine  ;) :D
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