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Re: Viezu remap.
« Reply #30 on: 06 January 2017, 14:27:05 »

The Omega isn`t tyre sensitive really, you just need good tyres,leave the budget ones alone if you`re going to be driving "enthusiastically".
I think it is tyre sensitive. Very much so.  Both from a grip viewpoint and a tramline/stability point of view.

Different drivers have different perspectives of what good grip is, and have different sensitivities to straight line stability.  Mr Gixer, for example, is incredibly sensitive to any variances in straight line stability - I suspect mostly due to his bike track days - which is always the subject of heated debate during curry evenings.
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Re: Viezu remap.
« Reply #31 on: 06 January 2017, 14:29:20 »

...which is always the subject of heated debate during curry evenings.

What a superb idea. :y
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Re: Viezu remap.
« Reply #32 on: 06 January 2017, 14:44:13 »

...which is always the subject of heated debate during curry evenings.

What a superb idea. :y
I insist (when I'm better - I couldn't face one at the moment, I'd be finished partway through the crisp course  :'()
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Re: Viezu remap.
« Reply #33 on: 06 January 2017, 14:50:38 »

The Omega isn`t tyre sensitive really, you just need good tyres,leave the budget ones alone if you`re going to be driving "enthusiastically".
I think it is tyre sensitive. Very much so.  Both from a grip viewpoint and a tramline/stability point of view.

Different drivers have different perspectives of what good grip is, and have different sensitivities to straight line stability.  Mr Gixer, for example, is incredibly sensitive to any variances in straight line stability - I suspect mostly due to his bike track days - which is always the subject of heated debate during curry evenings.

I found the three tyre brands I used all fairly similar for stability and tramlining was minimal, but  thats just judgement on what I have used. I would think that worn or poor suspension components would cause more issues with insability and tramlining than any tyre sensitivity, and that is the Omega`s Achilles heel, not to mention worn diff mounts which will be al of them by now.
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Re: Viezu remap.
« Reply #34 on: 06 January 2017, 15:05:36 »

The Omega isn`t tyre sensitive really, you just need good tyres,leave the budget ones alone if you`re going to be driving "enthusiastically".
I think it is tyre sensitive. Very much so.  Both from a grip viewpoint and a tramline/stability point of view.

Different drivers have different perspectives of what good grip is, and have different sensitivities to straight line stability.  Mr Gixer, for example, is incredibly sensitive to any variances in straight line stability - I suspect mostly due to his bike track days - which is always the subject of heated debate during curry evenings.

I found the three tyre brands I used all fairly similar for stability and tramlining was minimal, but  thats just judgement on what I have used. I would think that worn or poor suspension components would cause more issues with insability and tramlining than any tyre sensitivity, and that is the Omega`s Achilles heel, not to mention worn diff mounts which will be al of them by now.

What would you say is the biggest giveaway of worn differential mounts in the Omega during a test drive?
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Re: Viezu remap.
« Reply #35 on: 06 January 2017, 15:28:02 »

The Omega isn`t tyre sensitive really, you just need good tyres,leave the budget ones alone if you`re going to be driving "enthusiastically".
I think it is tyre sensitive. Very much so.  Both from a grip viewpoint and a tramline/stability point of view.

Different drivers have different perspectives of what good grip is, and have different sensitivities to straight line stability.  Mr Gixer, for example, is incredibly sensitive to any variances in straight line stability - I suspect mostly due to his bike track days - which is always the subject of heated debate during curry evenings.

I found the three tyre brands I used all fairly similar for stability and tramlining was minimal, but  thats just judgement on what I have used. I would think that worn or poor suspension components would cause more issues with instability and tramlining than any tyre sensitivity, and that is the Omega`s Achilles heel, not to mention worn diff mounts which will be al of them by now.


What would you say is the biggest giveaway of worn differential mounts in the Omega during a test drive?

Excessive movement at the rear when entering a bend or roundabout, it`s hard to describe really but you can just feel the back of the car moving a bit more than it should and that bit of extra momentum can be enough to brake traction with crap tyres.
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Re: Viezu remap.
« Reply #36 on: 06 January 2017, 16:01:23 »

...which is always the subject of heated debate during curry evenings.

What a superb idea. :y
I insist (when I'm better - I couldn't face one at the moment, I'd be finished partway through the crisp course  :'()

Sounds like you need to visit the quack. Off your curry? It's something serious. :o
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Re: Viezu remap.
« Reply #37 on: 06 January 2017, 16:26:12 »

The Omega isn`t tyre sensitive really, you just need good tyres,leave the budget ones alone if you`re going to be driving "enthusiastically".
I think it is tyre sensitive. Very much so.  Both from a grip viewpoint and a tramline/stability point of view.

Different drivers have different perspectives of what good grip is, and have different sensitivities to straight line stability.  Mr Gixer, for example, is incredibly sensitive to any variances in straight line stability - I suspect mostly due to his bike track days - which is always the subject of heated debate during curry evenings.

I found the three tyre brands I used all fairly similar for stability and tramlining was minimal, but  thats just judgement on what I have used. I would think that worn or poor suspension components would cause more issues with insability and tramlining than any tyre sensitivity, and that is the Omega`s Achilles heel, not to mention worn diff mounts which will be al of them by now.
At the time, you can bet your 'arris that Gixer's black saloon and my Silver Bullet were both as tight as a nun's do-dah...

...though now my diff mounts are tired (barely noticeable when driving - rear steering is normally another issue, usually doughnuts if geo is bang on), and my front verticals have just started to separate one side.

But as said, tramlining/stability is always a bit subjective, and in order, the TTs were better than the RTs in this regard, with F1's coming last out of the trio by some margin.  None as bad as SC5s though.  I don't think I'm overly sensitive to it, in the way chrisgixer is.
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Re: Viezu remap.
« Reply #38 on: 06 January 2017, 19:28:17 »

The Omega isn`t tyre sensitive really, you just need good tyres,leave the budget ones alone if you`re going to be driving "enthusiastically".
I think it is tyre sensitive. Very much so.  Both from a grip viewpoint and a tramline/stability point of view.

Different drivers have different perspectives of what good grip is, and have different sensitivities to straight line stability.  Mr Gixer, for example, is incredibly sensitive to any variances in straight line stability - I suspect mostly due to his bike track days - which is always the subject of heated debate during curry evenings.

I found the three tyre brands I used all fairly similar for stability and tramlining was minimal, but  thats just judgement on what I have used. I would think that worn or poor suspension components would cause more issues with insability and tramlining than any tyre sensitivity, and that is the Omega`s Achilles heel, not to mention worn diff mounts which will be al of them by now.
At the time, you can bet your 'arris that Gixer's black saloon and my Silver Bullet were both as tight as a nun's do-dah...

...though now my diff mounts are tired (barely noticeable when driving - rear steering is normally another issue, usually doughnuts if geo is bang on), and my front verticals have just started to separate one side.

But as said, tramlining/stability is always a bit subjective, and in order, the TTs were better than the RTs in this regard, with F1's coming last out of the trio by some margin.  None as bad as SC5s though.  I don't think I'm overly sensitive to it, in the way chrisgixer is.

And we know how sensitive he is to tyres (threads)  ;D
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Re: Viezu remap.
« Reply #39 on: 06 January 2017, 19:29:38 »

There were decent budget tyres. Unfortunately they're no longer produced...
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« Reply #40 on: 06 January 2017, 19:35:28 »

The new Michelin Pilot Sport 4s is coming out early this year but apparently it has a higher silicon content so probably won`t be as good as the super sport that it is replacing.

Tyre choices seem to be getting worse not better  :-\
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Re: Viezu remap.
« Reply #41 on: 06 January 2017, 20:02:44 »

There were decent budget tyres. Unfortunately they're no longer produced...
Yet to witness one.  That said, decent premium tyres are sometimes hard to find ;D
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« Reply #42 on: 06 January 2017, 20:05:35 »

The new Michelin Pilot Sport 4s is coming out early this year but apparently it has a higher silicon content so probably won`t be as good as the super sport that it is replacing.

Tyre choices seem to be getting worse not better  :-\
We have tried the current PS4 against PSS on same car, and the PSS appear slightly better at cornering, and marginally more stable in a straight line.


I am currently running PS4 on the rear of both my Omegas.
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Re: Viezu remap.
« Reply #43 on: 06 January 2017, 21:07:35 »

My £53 fitted Accelera Winter tyres are pretty decent... stick like poo to a rug. :D
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« Reply #44 on: 06 January 2017, 21:26:20 »

My £53 fitted Accelera Winter tyres are pretty decent... stick like poo to a rug. :D

And so they should  :P
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