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[Viral_Jim]

In the hunt for a post omega/BMW vehicle I came across these and thought as a long term proposition they looked quite promising. In the "barely run in" state of about 1yr/10k old they seem to have dropped about 50% of their as new value and can be had very well specced for about £17k (a bit more for the v70).

I realise they will shed most of the other 50% of their value in short order so they are a long term proposition only but considering I'm likely to be getting up to around 18k/yr shortly, something that's £30 to tax and returns >50mpg in the real world whilst being brisk and extremely comfortable has a certain appeal.

I'd be looking at a D4 auto, so 180bhp and ample torque .

[STEMO]

Ok...


Reply A) They're shit
Reply B) Wouldn't touch one with a barge pole
Reply C) The older ones were much better
Reply D) The engine drops out after 30K
Reply E) Real world mpg is crap



There, that saves anyone else posting. 

[Viral_Jim]

 

Is that based on your experience of the car, or the forum


Actually, I should probably have just done a poll 

[Doctor Gollum]

Go petrol manual.

[tunnie]

V70 D5 Auto is on the list for MrsT next car, very comfy cars when I've sat in them. Few people at work run them, no real issues.

Volvo forums suggest fairly robust, only place that mentions autobox problems is here. Which is to be expected   

[Doctor Gollum]

Driven hard, the D5 will eat head gaskets. The 1.6 diesel is the same God forsaken lump used in the Focus and is utter shite.

[Viral_Jim]

Volvo forums suggest fairly robust, only place that mentions autobox problems is here. Which is to be expected   

My understanding was that the earlier Geartronics suffered "a spate" of failures at around the 80-100k mark. Which gave them a bad reputation. However, this was common to a lot of auto-boxes and I suspect it will remain so while ever manufacturers insist on marking 'boxes as "sealed for life". IMHO its totally unreasonable to expect anything other than failure from a mechanical part if you don't maintain it. Any car I drive (regardless of what the car manufacturer says) gets the gearbox oil changed every 50k/5yrs.

I like the look of the D5 too, but I think the performance gap is not wide enough to justify the extra fuel and tax which one would generate over the D4. Unless there is a significant upfront saving of course 

Go petrol manual.

Petrol maybe, manual - nope! 2hr commute, much of it in stop-start traffic, I'm strictly a 2 pedal guy these days

[minifreek]

Iv got a 2004 V70 D5 Auto SE Estate, TBH I hate the fookin' thing but SWMBO likes it and thats all thats to be said on the matter....

Don't get me wrong, it reasonably economical, reasonably quick (dont forget its a 2 tonne barge) cumfy, quiet etc... brilliant for towing the caravan - in fact better for towing the caravan than the Omega (im not talking economy here) but I just can't gel with it.... doesn't help that the boost pipe needs cleaning and keeps going into limp mode and the airbag light has come one since installing the handsfree kit and the place I got it from want to charge £60 before even resetting the airbag.... and clearing the codes....

I did however get a good deal on it, as I made them fit a new cambelt, give it a full service and fit a twin electric towbar too... which they did. I dont think the salesman was expecting me to come back the same day with the cash to buy it.... the look on his face was ruddy priceless LOL

[tunnie]

Volvo forums suggest fairly robust, only place that mentions autobox problems is here. Which is to be expected   

My understanding was that the earlier Geartronics suffered "a spate" of failures at around the 80-100k mark. Which gave them a bad reputation. However, this was common to a lot of auto-boxes and I suspect it will remain so while ever manufacturers insist on marking 'boxes as "sealed for life". IMHO its totally unreasonable to expect anything other than failure from a mechanical part if you don't maintain it. Any car I drive (regardless of what the car manufacturer says) gets the gearbox oil changed every 50k/5yrs.

I like the look of the D5 too, but I think the performance gap is not wide enough to justify the extra fuel and tax which one would generate over the D4. Unless there is a significant upfront saving of course 

Go petrol manual.

Petrol maybe, manual - nope! 2hr commute, much of it in stop-start traffic, I'm strictly a 2 pedal guy these days

Yes D5 is worth it I think, I'm looking at 2004-7 ish Era. Did some research on the forums, no big issues with gearboxes or engines.

Tbh posting here for other cars is pointless, everything you suggest will have comments it's shit, this blows up every 5 miles and the engine has major issues. Keep research to forums for that type of car. 

A member of MrsT family has a V70, or did have until recently. 300k miles never had any issues with gearbox or engine, solid cars. Few parents here I know run them as well, no major issues.

[X30XE]

There's a rake of older V70Rs about for 6-9k.  Hell of a lot more depreciation proof than a new one. I love the MKII V70. Far superior to the Omega estate. Makes much less fuss of 110mph and far quieter with it. Sound system is better.  Turning circle is the same as a U-boat mind. 

[Doctor Gollum]

There's a rake of older V70Rs about for 6-9k.  Hell of a lot more depreciation proof than a new one. I love the MKII V70. Far superior to the Omega estate. Makes much less fuss of 110mph and far quieter with it. Sound system is better.  Turning circle is the same as a U-boat mind.

Petrol and manual... Fancy that

[X30XE]

There's a rake of older V70Rs about for 6-9k.  Hell of a lot more depreciation proof than a new one. I love the MKII V70. Far superior to the Omega estate. Makes much less fuss of 110mph and far quieter with it. Sound system is better.  Turning circle is the same as a U-boat mind.

Petrol and manual... Fancy that

Most are Auto 

[Doctor Gollum]

There's a rake of older V70Rs about for 6-9k.  Hell of a lot more depreciation proof than a new one. I love the MKII V70. Far superior to the Omega estate. Makes much less fuss of 110mph and far quieter with it. Sound system is better.  Turning circle is the same as a U-boat mind.

Petrol and manual... Fancy that

Sadly most are Auto 

Fixed. But they're a much better long term bet than diesels. T5s are a much better bet than D5s...just ask any traffic copper

[Viral_Jim]

I think the R's have have a reputation for common issues with the awd system (handed system iirc). To the extent that a number have been configured to 2wd  .


Again, how actually widespread these issues are is anyone's guess.

[X30XE]

I think the R's have have a reputation for common issues with the awd system (handed system iirc). To the extent that a number have been configured to 2wd  .


Again, how actually widespread these issues are is anyone's guess.

Well apparently we're not allowed to point out the failings of certain vehicles anymore     But yes the 4wd transfer box thingamy is made of stilton. But at least the hazard lights aren't cambus    Too soon?