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[Rods2]

The jobs market has been gradually changing since the 1970's with the Internet accelerating this. The end result has been the jobs market becoming much more polarised. The number jobs that require thinking and creativity have grown in number and remuneration and generally require a college or degree level education and are paid at rates well above the minimum wage, often considerably above with good perks. The is a perpetual shortage of good people to fill these jobs with good annual pay inflation if an employee and bad if an employer.

There are other skilled jobs that have generally seen there wages fall and numbers decrease and then there are the rest. If they are lucky the living wage, but much more likely the minimum wage and if they are lucky a contract with specified hours but all too often a zero hours contract.

The employment rates have held up well in this country compared to most. A big problem in the US is the high number of 24-54 year-old working age males that are unemployed and no longer looking for work. Seeing the much worse performance by boys in our educational system, will the long term trend also be the same here?

[Rods2]

This is happening relatively rapidly in the city. Computer algorithm programmes set up to do the trading, hence many applicants for any trading jobs still done by humans.
It was bad enough when humans got it wrong, but what are we going to do when its all facked up by computers that we cant do anything at all about ?
If they get hacked, the worlds economies could crash into utter chaos overnight.

One day somebody will pull the plug out ! For sure. Governments, companies, everyone is "online this" and online that". What will happen when suddenly there is  no "online"  Or a super mastermind hacker takes it all over and holds the World to ransom  Mwwwwaaaaaahahahaha

Not being one to spread fake news, but the word on the street is that a certain Lord Opti and his sidekick Mater Rog have this all planned and are going to press the destruct button on June the 8th.

[Bigron]

If you aren't Engineers (Electronic or Computer), you will have no value to society, so you may as well be sent to an organ/limb bank to keep the above Engineers in good repair.

Ron.

[STEMO]

If you aren't Engineers (Electronic or Computer), you will have no value to society, so you may as well be sent to an organ/limb bank to keep the above Engineers in good repair.

Ron.

They wouldn't want my limbs 

Now my old todger...........

[New POD]

Some years ago I did a Degree in Product Engineering with Manufacturing Systems at Coventry Polytechnic

At one point in the Final year, in one of the lectures, there was a massive row between one of the older students, (who had worked on the factory floor as a labourer before getting promoted, and going to night school, and eventually doing a HNC and then getting onto the full time degree
), and the lecturer.

The row was that one, thought automation and industrial engineering was designed to take jobs from honest hard working people, and that the other was trying to tell him that the job of a production engineer, was to design a manufacturing method that allowed any company to compete on both price and acceptable quality, and if price and quality could only be achieve by minimising the number of people, then YES it was our job to find ways of getting rid of people.

But if we are to compete globally, we need to be cheaper OR better.

People are expensive and they make mistakes.

[Bigron]

Agreed, New POD; I made a mistake once - I seem to remeber there was this vicar.....

Ron.

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

If you aren't Engineers (Electronic or Computer), you will have no value to society, so you may as well be sent to an organ/limb bank to keep the above Engineers in good repair.

Ron.

Well, I look after the building they work in, so I guess I'm safer than most. 

[Bigron]

Albs, with your generous and helpful nature, you are GUARANTEED a permanent safe place! 

Ron.

[Sir Tigger KC]

If you aren't Engineers (Electronic or Computer), you will have no value to society, so you may as well be sent to an organ/limb bank to keep the above Engineers in good repair.

Ron.

They wouldn't want my limbs 

Now my old todger...........

Ah yes we also know you'll be first in the queue when they bring out Robo-Todger! 

[Migv6 le Frog Fan]

Albs, with your generous and helpful nature, you are GUARANTEED a permanent safe place! 

Ron.

I was told something similar to that by my last boss. Then after 20 years of hard graft, got instant dismissal for having a gammy leg. Despite the fact I had the gammy leg since 1976. 

[STEMO]

If you aren't Engineers (Electronic or Computer), you will have no value to society, so you may as well be sent to an organ/limb bank to keep the above Engineers in good repair.

Ron.

They wouldn't want my limbs 

Now my old todger...........

Ah yes we also know you'll be first in the queue when they bring out Robo-Todger! 

[Viral_Jim]

It is an interesting problem, which, as said will only grow as time marches on, I can see (I know some will disagree) that within 25(ish) years there will be few if any professional driving jobs, very few production/manufacturing jobs, not to mention a number of professional jobs falling by the wayside - I'm thinking accountants, payroll transactions, banking jobs etc etc.

Ultimately the way we tax companies will have to radically change if we want to continue to support the kind of society we have (or would like to have). Over the past 20-30yrs the percentage of companies gross profit that has gone to shareholders has steadily increased and the corresponding percentage going to employees has decreased, along with the number of employees too. This is one of the chief drivers of inequality and

One interesting solution, which I think has merit is the taxation of robots in businesses in a similar way to which we tax them for employees. The proceeds generated are then used to fund services. Ultimately I think we will end up moving to some kind of universal income model as jobs become fewer and further between.

[Kevin Wood]

If you aren't Engineers (Electronic or Computer), you will have no value to society, so you may as well be sent to an organ/limb bank to keep the above Engineers in good repair.

Ron.

They wouldn't want my limbs 

Now my old todger...........

Ah yes we also know you'll be first in the queue when they bring out Robo-Todger! 

I don't know... Are you any good at changing batteries, STEMO?

[Doctor Gollum]

That might be true of the developed world, but what about where labour is cheap

[STEMO]

That might be true of the developed world, but what about where labour is cheap

Most of them already have sizeable todgers