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[Viral_Jim]

This should get the diesel haters moist with anticipation.  From next year it looks like a DPF delete is likely to be picked up at MOT time with potential fines for the owner.

https://autotechnician.co.uk/roadworthiness-will-bolster-dpf-checks/

I reckon this may well see a few mid 2000's diesels hit the scrap heap or traded in, I know of a few people who opted for the delete rather than the cost of a new dpf.

[Doctor Gollum]

Wonder where you stand with deleting the cats on LPG cars

[TD]

I knew someone that had the DPF deleted and the ECU reprogrammed so it didn't put on the EML.
He shortly afterwards sold the car as he emigrated to Spain...

Bet the new owner of the vehicle isn't aware its had its DPF deleted......

Be worthy of getting an emissions test done with a friendly MOT station, if you've bought a used diesel that should have one fitted, I reckon.

[Viral_Jim]

Wonder where you stand with deleting the cats on LPG cars

AFAIK, petrol cars are judged only on the pass/fail of the emissions test. So if your car passes the test then you are good to go, cat or no cat. I think that's why they've specifically tightened up on the Road worthiness aspect to catch the DPF deletes. As there's no emissions gas test for diesels, then there's no way to fail them.

Personally I'm just glad I managed to land a pre-dpf car.

Be worthy of getting an emissions test done with a friendly MOT station, if you've bought a used diesel that should have one fitted, I reckon.

Yes, I'd be pretty bloody hacked off if the first thing I knew about the dpf delete was an MOT failure and a £1k fine 

[STEMO]

Only test on a diesel car is an absolutely fickin brutal smoke test. Most diesels don't get to 4000rpm in daily driving, then the MOT man tries to kill your car.

[tunnie]

Wonder where you stand with deleting the cats on LPG cars

AFAIK, petrol cars are judged only on the pass/fail of the emissions test. So if your car passes the test then you are good to go, cat or no cat. I think that's why they've specifically tightened up on the Road worthiness aspect to catch the DPF deletes. As there's no emissions gas test for diesels, then there's no way to fail them.

Personally I'm just glad I managed to land a pre-dpf car.

Be worthy of getting an emissions test done with a friendly MOT station, if you've bought a used diesel that should have one fitted, I reckon.

Yes, I'd be pretty bloody hacked off if the first thing I knew about the dpf delete was an MOT failure and a £1k fine 

I think the fine refers to people who actually do the work?

As TD states, you could buy one second hand and not know if it's been gutted or not.

[STEMO]

Wonder where you stand with deleting the cats on LPG cars

AFAIK, petrol cars are judged only on the pass/fail of the emissions test. So if your car passes the test then you are good to go, cat or no cat. I think that's why they've specifically tightened up on the Road worthiness aspect to catch the DPF deletes. As there's no emissions gas test for diesels, then there's no way to fail them.

Personally I'm just glad I managed to land a pre-dpf car.

Be worthy of getting an emissions test done with a friendly MOT station, if you've bought a used diesel that should have one fitted, I reckon.

Yes, I'd be pretty bloody hacked off if the first thing I knew about the dpf delete was an MOT failure and a £1k fine 

I think the fine refers to people who actually do the work?

As TD states, you could buy one second hand and not know if it's been gutted or not.

And not know who did the work. Cost you close to a grand to have it replaced.

[STEMO]

This tells me it's the owner who would be held liable:

"The legislation makes the owner or user of the vehicle primarily responsible for its condition. Whether the person who had removed the DPF, or had offered to remove it, had also committed an offence would be a matter for the courts to decide.”

[tunnie]

Glad I bought newish and can see it via my laptop quite happily going through it's cycles....

Certainly would make me cautious of a second hand 2006-12 era diesel, unless I hooked in VAGCOM to check it's DPF had been doing it's stuff.

This tells me it's the owner who would be held liable:

"The legislation makes the owner or user of the vehicle primarily responsible for its condition. Whether the person who had removed the DPF, or had offered to remove it, had also committed an offence would be a matter for the courts to decide.”

Ouch, indeed! 

[Viral_Jim]

Yup, I can see this making a "bubble" of very undesirable cars, in the late 2000's era as you say. Similar to the ordinary petrol cars (signum, various saabs and others) that attracted the same £500 ved that was levied on the luxury & performance cars of the same age.

[tunnie]

Yup, I can see this making a "bubble" of very undesirable cars, in the late 2000's era as you say. Similar to the ordinary petrol cars (signum, various saabs and others) that attracted the same £500 ved that was levied on the luxury & performance cars of the same age.

Yeah, I could get 2007-10 Passat Estate, but I would want to plug in before buying it...

[Varche]

All most worrying. So many alarm bells going off I cannot think straight.

[Kevin Wood]

About time too. There are too many tractors driving round with emissions that make your eyes water. Drive a convertible for a day and you'll understand what your pollen filter has been removing.

[TD]

Only test on a diesel car is an absolutely fickin brutal smoke test. Most diesels don't get to 4000rpm in daily driving, then the MOT man tries to kill your car.

Your going t wrong MOT station if they rev it that hard.....I know they should tho'

My MOT garage just gives a quick blip on the throttle and leaves it at that 

[STEMO]

Only test on a diesel car is an absolutely fickin brutal smoke test. Most diesels don't get to 4000rpm in daily driving, then the MOT man tries to kill your car.

Your going t wrong MOT station if they rev it that hard.....I know they should tho'

My MOT garage just gives a quick blip on the throttle and leaves it at that 

I thought the test was all system monitored now?