stop start technology

Started by tidla, 26 June 2017, 20:36:15

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Viral_Jim

Quote from: tunnie on 27 June 2017, 10:08:00
Quick search for Yeti mods gives a list some have done:

https://www.briskoda.net/forums/topic/330673-top-vcds-mods/

Cornering lights (don't tell Entwood)
Looks like "Hill Hold" control caused debate there, personally I found it a great feature. (standard on mine)
XDS? Looks like this can be enabled as well  :-\

Very cool thanks!  8) IIRC, its all polo underneath, could be wrong though. I like hill-hold as I reckon it is helping the DSG's clutch (mostly because im too lazy to use the handbrake properly).

biggriffin

Quote from: VXL V6 on 26 June 2017, 21:23:12
Hated it on every vehicle I've driven with it. Interesting when you go to pull out of a busy junction and it decides to kill the ignition just as you go to press the throttle....
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The bloody hire car we had on holiday had it, pain the arse, get to junction ready steady, STOP, wtf bit un)nerving when it happens the 1st time and you don't know the car has it.
Hoof'land storeman.

STEMO

It's a piece of piss, and anyone who can't handle it shouldn't really be driving.

TheBoy

Quote from: tunnie on 27 June 2017, 14:58:10
Quote from: STEMO on 27 June 2017, 14:43:38
Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 27 June 2017, 14:32:33
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 27 June 2017, 14:23:49
Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 27 June 2017, 14:12:22
Think of a big motorway hold up where there has been an accident and the motorway has been closed due to an accident.  There will be hundreds if not thousands of vehicles all sat there with their engines running, belching out toxic fumes, soot and particulates into the atmosphere.  ::)  The same for every big town and city worldwide during rush hour.  ;)

If every vehicle was equipped with stop/start then this type of pollution would drastically reduced and in my opinion worth the minor inconvenience.  :y
You can always turn the key off yourself in such circumstances ::)

People don't though.....  ::)
No, they don't. If it's a hot day, with no breeze, it's murder on the M62 when it clogs.

Start stop auto disables if it can't cool the car, in the hot weather I found just few moments after I stopped it would start again in an aid to keep the air-con going.
Try a Civic. Bloody thing stops at every junction in 35C heat, when you have its piss poor A/C on lowest temp.  I sent the first one back, believing both the A/C and the stop/start was faulty, but its replacement was the same.

Granted, that's the worse implementation I've come across though.  The Focus I had last month was all too keen to turn off, but single button to quickly disable, which isn't such a hardship.


But why should drivers have to piss about constantly disabling it, just to appease Londoners and other people who want to live in smog infested places. Line the do-gooders up, as normal.



I do believe Alb's Merc *should* have start-stop though, else he'd be craving fish and chips at every junction.
Grumpy old man

Sir Tigger KC

Quote from: TheBoy on 27 June 2017, 18:11:23

But why should drivers have to piss about constantly disabling it, just to appease Londoners and other people who want to live in smog infested places. Line the do-gooders up, as normal.


Think of the wee children and their poor little lungs TB!  ::)  :'(  ;D
RIP Paul 'Luvvie' Lovejoy

Politically homeless ......

TheBoy

Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 27 June 2017, 18:22:44
Quote from: TheBoy on 27 June 2017, 18:11:23

But why should drivers have to piss about constantly disabling it, just to appease Londoners and other people who want to live in smog infested places. Line the do-gooders up, as normal.


Think of the wee children and their poor little lungs TB!  ::)  :'(  ;D
So ban all diesels, and any petrol over 1l then ;)

Or shoot the little bastids.
Grumpy old man

STEMO

Quote from: TheBoy on 27 June 2017, 18:11:23
Quote from: tunnie on 27 June 2017, 14:58:10
Quote from: STEMO on 27 June 2017, 14:43:38
Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 27 June 2017, 14:32:33
Quote from: Doctor Gollum on 27 June 2017, 14:23:49
Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 27 June 2017, 14:12:22
Think of a big motorway hold up where there has been an accident and the motorway has been closed due to an accident.  There will be hundreds if not thousands of vehicles all sat there with their engines running, belching out toxic fumes, soot and particulates into the atmosphere.  ::)  The same for every big town and city worldwide during rush hour.  ;)

If every vehicle was equipped with stop/start then this type of pollution would drastically reduced and in my opinion worth the minor inconvenience.  :y
You can always turn the key off yourself in such circumstances ::)

People don't though.....  ::)
No, they don't. If it's a hot day, with no breeze, it's murder on the M62 when it clogs.

Start stop auto disables if it can't cool the car, in the hot weather I found just few moments after I stopped it would start again in an aid to keep the air-con going.
Try a Civic. Bloody thing stops at every junction in 35C heat, when you have its piss poor A/C on lowest temp.  I sent the first one back, believing both the A/C and the stop/start was faulty, but its replacement was the same.

Granted, that's the worse implementation I've come across though.  The Focus I had last month was all too keen to turn off, but single button to quickly disable, which isn't such a hardship.


But why should drivers have to piss about constantly disabling it, just to appease Londoners and other people who want to live in smog infested places. Line the do-gooders up, as normal.



I do believe Alb's Merc *should* have start-stop though, else he'd be craving fish and chips at every junction.
Here we go again. 'Piss about constantly', pressing a button. It's a wonder some people don't complain about having to breathe.

Field Marshal Dr. Opti

Stop/start is a pain in the arse in stop/start slow moving traffic. It keeps cutting out just when the traffic starts to move again.

I imagine the amount of petrol it saves is about 10% of SFA. Total gimmick.

Field Marshal Dr. Opti

In fact.....according to the handbook my car is marginally more economical without stop/start.

Lincs Robert

Quote from: Varche on 27 June 2017, 13:59:47
How do the batteries hold up?

I always assumed they would need changing more frequently . That downside being a small price to pay in the quest for a high mpg figure.

It's got a higher capacity & spec battery. Car is 5 years old & is still on the original factory fitted unit with 64k on the clock. I suppose given the average battery life is what, 5 years - it must be coming towards the end of its life .....

Sir Tigger KC

Quote from: Lord Sittapong Meerkat on 27 June 2017, 20:27:15
Stop/start is a pain in the arse in stop/start slow moving traffic. It keeps cutting out just when the traffic starts to move again.

I imagine the amount of petrol it saves is about 10% of SFA. Total gimmick.

Quote from: Lord Sittapong Meerkat on 27 June 2017, 20:29:10
In fact.....according to the handbook my car is marginally more economical without stop/start.

Don't think of the money you're not saving, think of the pollution your saving M'lud!  Think of the poor little children!  :)
RIP Paul 'Luvvie' Lovejoy

Politically homeless ......

TheBoy

Quote from: Lincs Robert on 27 June 2017, 22:41:43
Quote from: Varche on 27 June 2017, 13:59:47
How do the batteries hold up?

I always assumed they would need changing more frequently . That downside being a small price to pay in the quest for a high mpg figure.

It's got a higher capacity & spec battery. Car is 5 years old & is still on the original factory fitted unit with 64k on the clock. I suppose given the average battery life is what, 5 years - it must be coming towards the end of its life .....
I would expect a battery to last 8yrs+
Grumpy old man

TheBoy

Quote from: Sir Tigger QC on 27 June 2017, 23:38:19
Quote from: Lord Sittapong Meerkat on 27 June 2017, 20:27:15
Stop/start is a pain in the arse in stop/start slow moving traffic. It keeps cutting out just when the traffic starts to move again.

I imagine the amount of petrol it saves is about 10% of SFA. Total gimmick.

Quote from: Lord Sittapong Meerkat on 27 June 2017, 20:29:10
In fact.....according to the handbook my car is marginally more economical without stop/start.

Don't think of the money you're not saving, think of the pollution your saving M'lud!  Think of the poor little children!  :)
But if its less economical, its causing more pollution (before getting on to wasting scarce resources making batteries)  :-\
Grumpy old man

Migv6 le Frog Fan

It is rumoured that your cars have had start/ stop technology for decades. It was known to the rest of us as the throttle pedal.  :D ;D
Its weird being the same age as old people !

Kevin Wood

Quote from: Migv6 on 28 June 2017, 18:40:38
It is rumoured that your cars have had start/ stop technology for decades. It was known to the rest of us as the throttle pedal.  :D ;D
I was going to say, my Morris Ital used to stall at every junction at one point. Never realised it was so ahead of its' time. 8)
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