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[Doctor Gollum]

Now, I believe that there is little more that I can do to save the planet other than kill myself. That applies to many environmentally friendly people today who still have to live and work in the context of 2017, and not in 1017.

Which is precisely why any environmental quest to reverse the effects of mankind will never work... we're all far too entitled to actually commit to the necessary.

As for the rest of your third paragraph,  there's far more to consuming than plastic... gas, electricity and produce that you haven't made or grown being just three...

Having no appliances would be far more responsible than even so called 'A' rated... which incidentally only applies to the energy consumed in use and not of the energy or materials consumed in manufacture.

Short of becoming Trappist monks living in caves/cabins/treehouses, we're simply pretending.

[Sir Tigger KC]

We're all doomed! Doomed I tell you!   

[TheBoy]

I drive an Omega (when I can prise it out of Mrs TB's mitts), do you think I care about the environment.


In fact, my solution when I'm the UK President, is to cull all the lentil munching tree huggers, as that in itself will reduce human impact on the planet.

[Lizzie Zoom]

Now, I believe that there is little more that I can do to save the planet other than kill myself. That applies to many environmentally friendly people today who still have to live and work in the context of 2017, and not in 1017.

Which is precisely why any environmental quest to reverse the effects of mankind will never work... we're all far too entitled to actually commit to the necessary.

As for the rest of your third paragraph,  there's far more to consuming than plastic... gas, electricity and produce that you haven't made or grown being just three...

Having no appliances would be far more responsible than even so called 'A' rated... which incidentally only applies to the energy consumed in use and not of the energy or materials consumed in manufacture.

Short of becoming Trappist monks living in caves/cabins/treehouses, we're simply pretending.

Yes, none of us, well most of us, are not perfect but, all I am saying, we can only do better although I will not live as though we are in the 11th century. But, we don't have to as, to repeat what I have stated before, the wit of mankind will produce the answers so we can live a great life style without wrecking the planet. Mankind has already come a long way since the Industrial Revolution in Britain

[Doctor Gollum]

Have we? Really? And at what cost?

[STEMO]

Have we? Really? And at what cost?

£35.99

[Doctor Gollum]

Have we? Really? And at what cost?

£35.99

And I bet that took four weeks to get here from China. By boat

[aaronjb]

Have we? Really? And at what cost?

£35.99

And I bet that took four weeks to get here from China. By boat

Most of the stuff I order from China turns up in about three days, and postage is usually free..

..very environmentally friendly, too, I'm sure

[Doctor Gollum]

Air freight is certainly more time efficient